People co-signing hot garbage. How about co-signing living right. No robbing, no killing, learn to be an asset to your community. Joe get your standard up for the Black and Brown man.
Your calling what Joe said hot garbage?? Why?? That was pure facts!! Unless your one of the jealous ones Joe was speaking about. You sound like your tearing a Latino Brotha down for trying to uplift and advise🤔🤔🤔
@Angel Rodriguez That’s rich to say but what if that was your loved one, a brother, a father that was gunned down or robbed? You’d feel a type of way. You’d even want to get revenge, that’s the downward spiral that gets people locked up or even killed over some nonesense. Yeah people will always do crime but as a prominent person your supposed to say to avoid that by all and any means. There’s no excuse, because life isn’t sweet for everyone in the world. Even wealthy people have their own problems you just don’t see it. There’s no excuse for harming people in your own community.
@BlackMarq20 it’s realistic to not do crime. It’s realistic to work a job no matter what the job is. Aristotle said that crimes aren’t done for one’s needs but their done because of greed.
@Ms. C Thats not an excuse by any means to be a criminal. actions have consequences and some of these peoples actions harm a lot of people, mothers who lose their babies, brothers and sisters who lose their loved ones. There’s no excuse for harming others for your own benefit.
That’s the thing about getting older, hopefully you become wiser and speak facts like this man. All generations need to follow these lessons. I only wish all those deceased rappers were allowed to grow old and pass on these blessings.
@AcapulcoGold Do you honestly not understand that armed robbery in many cases leads to MURDER? Also…if I used to do burglaries…it is very ok to tell people that burglarizing is wrong. Fat Jose said he can’t do that because he’ll sound like a hypocrite 🤦🏾♂️
@ReunionXL but he’s not tho he’s just saying that killing is too far too extreme Like he’s just saying if they were gonna do anything like damn if you’re going to Rob him just Do that but why you gotta kill him it’s not necessary . He’s not condoning anything
@Britt C The majority of white people who get robbed by black people don't fight back or resist. They just give up the goods. So there's no need to continue further with the violence during the crime. The criminals use that time to get up outta there
@apocalypsepow Uhhh... I think it would be alot harder to robb someone without a gun then with one. Imagine someone empty handed pointing their finger at you and walking up demanding your money. You going to take them seriously or naw?.. Now go back to the same scenario and put a gun in their hand. Cmon🤦♀️
Rob them??? No just leave people alone and mind your business…half of what he said was good and then the other was just ignorant…this mentality within this community is just disgusting…as if there isn’t enough opposition before us 🤷🏾♂️
How about DO NOT ROBB ME EITHER! Tf! We ain’t your targets or enemy’s. Life is very hard for Black People YES. BUT we gotta do way better There is a way to turn your life around. No excuses anymore. Do better. This ain’t it. Never was
The communities need to be cleaned up and the parents giving birth and filling up said communities need to be held accountable. They're just creating more possible victims and users of drug and gang life.
He also said "why robb eachother" 'the ones that look like us" 😉 because the 1% are robbing 🗣US...all American families and shame on them out grandparents for their retirement money.. I'm always in favor of robbing from the rich....I grew up watching Robin Hood *cartoon😁)
@Stackadolla What does "if you wanna show people food feed them first" mean? Was PNB Rock suppose to give the people who robbed him money first? That's totally ignorant. They have the same 24hrs. anybody else has walking around. Nobody else is responsible for their success or failure except themselves. And I never knew that was even a "rule"🤔?? to begin with. That's that crab in a barrel low-life mentality
Good times make soft men Soft men make hard times Hard times make hard men Hard men make Good times And it repeats Right now we are in Soft men make hard times cycle of life
4:26 - FINALLY, a very well-known public figure putting the message out there about the division that has been sown. Keep that conversation going, keep letting folks know.
@Blacca read Thomas Sowell. African Americans were more literate and their neighborhoods had less crime than inner city white neighborhoods up until the 60s. Destroying the family unit and then having gangsters heralded as role models for the black youth Id say is to blame.
@GeneralWillWelsh If you want to dispute the merits of Joe's character, career, life experiences, or his misguided, yet realistic, advice, that's a completely different topic than the point I was making with my post. The culture is very backwards, but it didn't start & get that way, on it's own, just because of... No one said the division wasn't obvious, but hardly anyone talks about the real reason why that is so & yes, the "culture", the people, us, are in part to blame for advancing socioeconomic divisions, but why... why is it & how did it ever become like that... is the point I'm trying to elude to. Most people don't ever seem to stop & take time to think about, acknowledge & address the origins of said beast...
Caucasians ( as we all know for sure) nor any of the others minorities be they Hispanics, Red Indians, Asians, Arabs, Hindus & any other darker people have not no way near experience the extreme racism that Black people have & still do. During those years (and still today) you didn't see Hispanics (nor any other darker people) getting to the high degree as Black people did getting lynch or hung, have dogs sick on us, getting sprayed with fire holes, getting harass, beaten & killed as Black people did & still do. Why would Hispanics need to unite with us when they have their own economic system & their own so-called Spanish speaking lands, so Hispanics have no need to unite with Black people. As the master teacher John Henry Clarke said Black people we are alone in our sorrows we have no friends but ourselves. By the way those so-called Spanish lands are the lands of Black people because we were the first to inhabited all of those so-called Spanish speaking lands, as Black people are the first to inhabited every part of the planet earth.
@Blacca lmao nah the division is obvious. Its also obvious its the cultures fault. And dude encouraged robbing people as long as you dont kill the victim. Culture is backwards
What's so sad is you should be able to go where you wanna go and wear what you wanna wear without being robbed or killed...work for what you want period
No u should not !!! And that’s y’all problem ! Would u say a antelope should be able to walk through an African jungle without being eaten by lions and tigers? No because u know what lions and tigers do when they see antelopes ! There is no difference if a millionaire walks through a poverty ridden neighborhood waving his $200k chain around ! He just shouldn’t die for his chain
Most of what Joe said was needed and on point. But if you don't understand why the audience laughed at his ridiculous statement that he's ok with you robbing someone, then you're buggin. Fat Joe is a legend and he clearly a loving human being who loves the community and the culture. But the man ain't God. The brother is allowed to say something misguided and for the audience to respond accordingly. As amazing as his intentions are, that statement demonstrates that he still has further to mature and evolve in his thinking (as we all do). Robbing someone else is EVIL! Period. It doesn't matter if you don't murder the person. It still would have been just as traumatizing for PNB, his girl and his kids. Also.. how do you think robberies are so successful? Mfs don't just walk up and say,"sir, give me your money please". They do it with guns and weapons so off the rip, it's a crime that puts everyone involved in danger. I know it sounds like a beautiful idea. But this fantasy world some of y'all live in where a thief can stick you up and both the victim & the thief can live hood happily ever after is a cartoon. It's not real life.
"Right" or "Wrong" is relative. Fat Joe is a street guy so he lives by a different moral code than someone with a clean record who works a 9 to 5. Since criminals will always be among us, Fat Joe's point was for those individuals to simply get what they need from the victim and keep it moving. Keep in mind that Fat Joe also critiqued these same rappers for not hiring a professional security team.
Joe was just acknowledging the reality of it…robbers gnna always be out here robbin, that fact will never change, but a life didn’t need to be taken in the process
Social media isn't the problem, jealousy, envy and the need for attention is. Some people have such a small existence that they want to be known as the guy that robbed or killed a rapper. They brag it and infuse into their identity. It's disgusting.
What Joe is saying is more so a first step. You can't expect someone in the streets to go legit overnight. But learning to rob without killing begins that mindset shift towards change.
@Chuh Wey lol I come from a line of criminals. From mobsters to regular street guys. So I know something. You have never been in the streets. So you don’t know anything about street culture. I’m like the first generation in my family to make it out and thrive. So don’t insult me. Street stuff isn’t cool but I understand the mindset I was one of the people with this flawed street mindset, Until I had a wake up call. The cannibalism nature to kill some one that look like you is more of a psychological hater for self. But whatever I’m not that invested in the topic. Life goes on
I love Joe but his message was so convoluted w fact and nonsense. Rappers have created to some degree the culture and have 100% glorified it. Rappers are an endangered species? As if actions don’t lead to consequences.
@DUST that’s def false that area was nothing like that in the 60s or 70s. There wasn’t a prominent gang violence or “wolves” chain snatching till late 70s early 80s. Rappers have def created the culture and glorified it
Nah, that’s neighborhood he was in been like that since the 60s Before hip hop existed. Nothing to do with music Can’t wear a steak in your neck infront or wolves. They gonna eat.
Definitely is rappers will always have a target on their backs. Think of the life of you living because the rap life ain't cut out for everyone money jewels all materialistic things come and go but not your life.
@Aspa Ragus you would have to ASK them. From what I witnessed they have no COPING SKILLS. Plus AMERICA has a huge problem with ppl identifying themselves as VICTIMS.
The fact that they laughing and joking during the knowledge this brother is blessing them with says everything you need to know about the current state of our community and this new generation coming up. I made my money and left the hood and never looked back.....I advise all my brothers who have found success to do the SAME. That staying to help pull up shit is a loss cause and will get you killed. *I'm from the south side of Chicago
Fat Joe, you have to tell them the truth. Rappers have to move different than any other artist in different genres. Check in is real. Swallow that pride and check in accordingly.
The problem is certain areas in LA got so many rival gangs that even if you checked in with one set the other gangs could care less! It’s the jungle for a reason
@ahijah sellassie Don't know if they have to check in. Unfortunately, it's a problem with no solution. The check in is to protect the artist. Snoop told Nas to check in with him when he comes to the city. That way no one messes with him.
Joe, if you're gonna be positive then be positive all the way. You want one foot in the money making "good world" and the other foot in the "grimey street sh-t world." WTF is "I don't mind people robbing?" Nah bro, robbing is a disgrace to our people and many have been seriously hurt or killed by being robbed. You sound like an adolescent who has a little maturity.
Point taken but I believe he was trying to not come off as a hypocrite since he himself in the past had robbed people. I agree with you 💯 percent but look at it from this perspective, robbing has been around since the beginning of time in varying degrees (aka Bret Favre stealing from the poorest state in America. And it’s about to get way worse when the recession hits full board! We can change the direction though if we all get on the same page and embrace integrity, morals and human decency.
@Christopher Ceelo Higgs I feel you but his message needs to evolve with maturity. Saying that it’s ok to rob somebody but just don’t kill sounds dumb af. The man ain’t a youngster either. Joe gotta be 50+ and still sounding half immature.
Sslute to Joe on this and speaking facts. He been doing the same shit when younger and he trying to tell people that you can change your life. Killing each other is the worst thing we do to ine another. Its sicking. We gotta stop it.
I agree with Joe, but people shouldn't be robbing people either. Even if you used to rob people that don't mean it's right. But Joe was being positive and he was right about everything he was saying, just not that part.
Yea but that’s not gonna change the mindset of some of these young people That’s out here now a days, it’s just better to Just rob someone then to rob and kill someone cuz now your just fucking shit up
My point is no one should steal from anyone Fat Joe wouldn't like it if it happened to him or his loved ones I do see your point though Material items are replacable
Facts, it's advisable to part ways from the hood if positive life changes happen. It's about energy and how rappers attract them. In order to be successful in that craft you have focus on what's ahead instead of figuring out what to bring forth from the past.
It's not just jealousy. It's opportunity. Everybody wants to be on top and they do that by bringing down the people who are already there. They don't realize that they will ultimately lose
He had some points but I don't like that he condone robbing people, lol. Rob them without killing them makes it better? How about just don't rob them, lol. Those people have families to feed as well with whatever little money they make a day. Point being, you can't really rob a place without a gun because the store owner might have one, so it always will lead to a dangerous situation where someone can be killed. So if we circle back to the root, nobody would have to die if nobody was robbing up a place, period.
I'm not condoning shit I'm talking about the reality of life it's not because you live right that the world is right you need to see the duality of this world
Why? Because we cannot admit we are haters and we need to be heart checked and know that if we work hard and grind, we can be successful. Some people live without unfulfilled dreams but hate because others are pursing and succeeding in theirs, we got to clean that cancer called hate out of us because this cycle is a hamster wheel that we all need to get off of. Like Joe said, ITS THE PEOPLE POWER. But if we cant get out of our own way we wont ever see it come true.
One love to Joe Crack #salute. On the flip side, in regards to PNB it isn't always automatic jealousy...it could be a number of things from ramifications from old drama, it could've been just a cold blooded hit . We don't know what that individual had running in his own head, I bad that that guy had to lose his life. We gotta stop killing one another, and we gotta stay in our own lanes and definitely out of beefs especially others beef. I'm just speaking hypothetically. 1 man 1 brain Peace ✌🏻
Finally somebody with some sense talking…..Joe stated all facts💯💯 crazy how mfs in the audience was laughing smh RIL PnB Rock 🙏🏾 prayer up for his gf, family and friends!
@Rzn Wow it’s really disturbing how angry you are. I SAID WHAT I SAID! Get your panties out of a bunch lol Take it how you want to take…Now you have a good one. Goodbye ✌🏾
Shit hits me hard. Why all the killing! I mean it's ridiculous. I've seen someone got shot in front of me and they had nothing to do with the fight that was going on. Bullets got no name.
All this is true but you have to move with caution when you’re in the hood and especially when you’re not in your own hood. We know what it’s supposed to be but it isn’t that way.
@teiko are you okay ? Do you think it's only cartels ? You know they cook crack in their house right ? You know they have bigger dealers in their own neighborhood right ? Not related to the cartel at all you moron get educated
@Europa Alchemist Say that to the Cartels bringing that nonsense to African American communities. Joe CRACK promoted violence and drug culture, isn’t he an Hispanic?
@Europa Alchemist Black people #1 worst enemy is our natural born open enemy the Caucasians & the other darker people who have become our Junior oppressors. The number #1 killer of my people, other darker people & their own people as history & we see today have been proven to be WP.
@tamir sharif you need to educate yourself because that's the saddest thing I ever read. Y'all are your own worst enemies. Everyone gives you a chance no one is going after you. You are killing everyone and each other and hate each other. Learn that we are all human not races
I come from an island where majority of the people fight it out and shake hands afterwards because it’s not worth losing your life or taking someone’s life. People are afraid of ass beatings.
Dude was talking mad shit to his opps and inviting that negative energy in his life and ya feel bad for him? He invited that shit. I never feel bad for these dudes that dying cuz of there own stupidity.
That’s exactly what I said, why aren’t these OG’s protecting our culture. If you the man in the hood and the underworld. We tearing down what took 50 years to build. I remember when they wouldn’t have a Hip-Hop artist on the bill. Let alone have a Hip-Hop concert in a stadium. It keep going like this the only time you will be able to see a artist is on IG or some kind of streaming concert with no crowd. They’ll start shooting concerts like music videos. I remember that was the only time you seen a artist unless you went to a concert was a video.
@arnhay lol yeah I hate that response because black people killing each other is a separate issue from racist killing us. Crime could stop today in the black community and it would still be violence. Look at what they did to black Wall Street. I agree though black people need to value each other life way more and stop killing each other.
How about we were treated like that from when the ships anchored. We were treated as no value for centuries and that’s how we value ourselves. So they are seeing their ancestors work (results). Not an excuse just saying. For example, have a baby and for the next 18 years smoke, curse, have sex around and physically abuse that kid. Then at 18 send him out in the world….
It really bothers me how we find the truth to be funny in these moments that should shape the outcome of our lives. Social Media has killed our sense of what reality should be Vs what it is right now.. get me off this planet man. Heaven open its gates & burn the earth like kDOt said it’s no more… 🕊🙏🏾 rip all the real ones & god bless all y’all.
Seems like that's the true and honest way to go, because if you got bread, it's a chance robbery or murder will come from being in the hood..for the most part anyways
"and they say it's the white man I should fear, but it's my own kind doing all the killing here" - Tupac Yet another senseless crime & loss perpetrated by our own. Someone let me know when & where the march & protest for this brotha will be..?
People have been advocating to stop the violence in the hood. It's just hasn't been television lately. White and blacks have become desensitized with all this killing. Whether your in the hood getting killed by your neighbor or in the grocery store shopping getting killed by a stranger who doesn't like you because of the color of your skin.
@Gemini Season 🎮 🤣 ... I was not expecting that response. That was a good laugh and I believe you're right on the money to that point. Very sad, if you think about it.
Its not only a hip-hop thing. Success comes pre-packaged with haters. Be smart and get yourself secure. Dont assume everyone is happy with your success no matter how much love you show to the hood. Its common sense.
As much as I love Joe Crack (FAT Joe) as an Artist and what he's done and given back to his community and peeps, I simply don't agree with that line of robbing peeps because it's traumatising for the victim and witnesses too. How about don't rob People, How about getting yours, How about asking those who made it successfully in life to show you a path of success, How about asking them if they have a job for you or use their connection to get you a job, If you're that lazy or have tried looking for a job without finding any...How about just begging that successful Queen or King a few buck or food instead of "Robbing people when you dam' know you ain't ROBBIN HOOD"
I'm starting to realize that in every difficulty in life killing relationships ect if we just follow gods laws we would be way more happy and have peace
The reality of these type of things is that in order to be in the hood with that type of status, the whole hood has to love you and fuck with you hard...fat joe used the example of big L and nipsey ,etc, and the reality is it only takes one person to hate you who can reach you, and then it could be game over..that's why joe also mentioned the LOX who got the hood they come from and are loved by basically all..but they also have wolves around who will get busy for them...they are so militant and not scared of their own people , but most importantly they don't front on their people or their hood...they are grown men who take care of their people and family..but like joe said, it's no security until puff is on a song, and then it's security lol because it becomes even bigger...so yeah it's sad that pnb couldn't even go have a beautiful bite to eat with his woman...it makes you think it be more to what be really going on...
He was under the same record label as XXXtentacion, King Von and many artists who died young. The record Label must be behind this so that they can claim the life insurance of this artists and profit from it.
It's sad that a 52 year old man that lives in a mansion, rich, famous, kids are set for life couldn't just say robbing is bad. Don't do it. This man is 52 years old but wants to hold onto that list bit of "respect" from the hood. Being a gangsta is more important than giving the message. Thus shit is disgusting
To many was these days to hustle and make money!!! We need people in these hood’s to teach all the options! The number one is EDUCATION!!! No more excuses for taking (robbing) other people!! NOT EXPECTABLE!!!
Rappers are "Endangered Species"?.......How bout we take a look at these "Rap Lyrics" that these rappers rap? Are we still just gonna keep lookin over that bottom line or can we be adults and have a real talk?
Noah they ca't. COz they will loose their moneys; LOL Hearing those guys saying 50y/old are gonna stick him up LMFAO ^^ Rapper is the dangeroust job ? LOL THose guys never worked their life, they don't know shit.And those guys are just flexing all the time , don't cry after it.
I don't think it's a matter of the lyrics as much as it is a case by case basis because if you really living what you talk about you know what comes with it and that is called acceptance.. its just a Lotta of this idol worship is in the wrong place for the wrong reasons.
He had me until he endorsed robbery...! But I get the larger point n enjoy hearing him speak. Great OG n great narrator n story teller n has done ALOT for his community .
I think he was looking at the way things are. Ideally I think he wants people to stop robbing too but that’s not the way things are so if people are going to rob, they shouldn’t kill. Don’t think he’s condoning robbing but it’s clearer has a lesser impact of the two.
Ain’t gonna lie! But, sometimes someone will Hire a Hitman to do their Dirty Work by paying them and the Hitman doesn’t have a Heart so they just goes out their way and kills innocent by standers. Honestly, said
What Joe said about rob him don't kill him went over so many heads it's almost impossible to tell a wolf that's hungry not to eat that's going to happen regardless but when you rob someone you have the decision not to kill and that's all he is saying take what you need to take but leave these people with their lives...if you think that you can convince a robber to do both than you haven't come from where we come from
Brother Malcolm X: You can’t hate the roots of the tree without ending up hating the tree. You can’t hate your origin without ending up hating yourself. You can’t hate the land, your motherland, the place that you come from, and we can’t hate Africa without ending up hating ourselves. The Black man in the Western Hemisphere-North America, Central America, South America, and in the Caribbean-is the best example of how one can be made, skillfully, to hate himself that you can find anywhere on this earth.
People co-signing hot garbage. How about co-signing living right. No robbing, no killing, learn to be an asset to your community. Joe get your standard up for the Black and Brown man.
Your calling what Joe said hot garbage?? Why?? That was pure facts!! Unless your one of the jealous ones Joe was speaking about. You sound like your tearing a Latino Brotha down for trying to uplift and advise🤔🤔🤔
He said that in the start of the sit down. This is just a clip
@Angel Rodriguez That’s rich to say but what if that was your loved one, a brother, a father that was gunned down or robbed? You’d feel a type of way. You’d even want to get revenge, that’s the downward spiral that gets people locked up or even killed over some nonesense. Yeah people will always do crime but as a prominent person your supposed to say to avoid that by all and any means. There’s no excuse, because life isn’t sweet for everyone in the world. Even wealthy people have their own problems you just don’t see it. There’s no excuse for harming people in your own community.
@BlackMarq20 it’s realistic to not do crime. It’s realistic to work a job no matter what the job is. Aristotle said that crimes aren’t done for one’s needs but their done because of greed.
@Ms. C Thats not an excuse by any means to be a criminal. actions have consequences and some of these peoples actions harm a lot of people, mothers who lose their babies, brothers and sisters who lose their loved ones. There’s no excuse for harming others for your own benefit.
That’s the thing about getting older, hopefully you become wiser and speak facts like this man. All generations need to follow these lessons. I only wish all those deceased rappers were allowed to grow old and pass on these blessings.
Love how he address the audience.."this not a laughing matter yall"
@ReunionXL Yeah he said he’ll sound like a hypocrite because he used to do it but he ain’t doing it no more obviously
@AcapulcoGold Do you honestly not understand that armed robbery in many cases leads to MURDER? Also…if I used to do burglaries…it is very ok to tell people that burglarizing is wrong. Fat Jose said he can’t do that because he’ll sound like a hypocrite 🤦🏾♂️
@ReunionXL but he’s not tho he’s just saying that killing is too far too extreme Like he’s just saying if they were gonna do anything like damn if you’re going to Rob him just Do that but why you gotta kill him it’s not necessary . He’s not condoning anything
Aye, a person lost their life here. Black people have to do better. That's why they are looked down upon. They cause their own stigma
People weird af they still be laughing too this world is so fucked because of humans the end is very fucking nigh.
Audience gets an F. Laughing when it isn't a laughing matter, talking out of turn, chatter and mumbling. Fat Joe is giving the gospel
Same guy who uses he n-word as a pasty hispanic dude.
@__ I don't believe it makes sense to argue with someone with clearly a narrow minded way of thinking. Robbing is wrong. Good day weirdo
@__ a gun is uwed to shoot ppl am I CRAZY? And the mfker got shit didn't he?
@Britt C The majority of white people who get robbed by black people don't fight back or resist. They just give up the goods. So there's no need to continue further with the violence during the crime. The criminals use that time to get up outta there
@apocalypsepow Uhhh... I think it would be alot harder to robb someone without a gun then with one. Imagine someone empty handed pointing their finger at you and walking up demanding your money. You going to take them seriously or naw?.. Now go back to the same scenario and put a gun in their hand. Cmon🤦♀️
Real talk Joe. Jealousy, and Envy is sad. May he rest in peace.
@Madian Lopez Whoa, I didn’t even know that they were all on Empire. Sheesh! 😔
Empire Records "Home of The Dead Rappers". King Von/Young Dolph/XXXtenacion/Drakeo/Mo3 Who's Next?chclip.net/video/DYfMJiwHnDU/video.html
😂 Joes 1st album is called “Jealous Ones Envy”. #facts
Rob them??? No just leave people alone and mind your business…half of what he said was good and then the other was just ignorant…this mentality within this community is just disgusting…as if there isn’t enough opposition before us 🤷🏾♂️
😂dang fat Joe!
Cats are broke and only know violence
They’re gonna do worse anyway, what Joe was saying was at least dont take a life if you’re gonna rob someone.
How about DO NOT ROBB ME EITHER! Tf! We ain’t your targets or enemy’s. Life is very hard for Black People YES. BUT we gotta do way better There is a way to turn your life around. No excuses anymore. Do better. This ain’t it. Never was
@Tyr I agree
The communities need to be cleaned up and the parents giving birth and filling up said communities need to be held accountable. They're just creating more possible victims and users of drug and gang life.
He also said "why robb eachother" 'the ones that look like us" 😉 because the 1% are robbing 🗣US...all American families and shame on them out grandparents for their retirement money.. I'm always in favor of robbing from the rich....I grew up watching Robin Hood *cartoon😁)
@Stackadolla What does "if you wanna show people food feed them first" mean? Was PNB Rock suppose to give the people who robbed him money first? That's totally ignorant. They have the same 24hrs. anybody else has walking around. Nobody else is responsible for their success or failure except themselves. And I never knew that was even a "rule"🤔?? to begin with. That's that crab in a barrel low-life mentality
@ackwonder what? U wanted to come under this comment and comment so badly. Check what your saying. Make it make sense.
Good times make soft men
Soft men make hard times
Hard times make hard men
Hard men make Good times
And it repeats
Right now we are in Soft men make hard times cycle of life
4:26 - FINALLY, a very well-known public figure putting the message out there about the division that has been sown. Keep that conversation going, keep letting folks know.
If you need someone to point these things out - celebrity or not, just take your head outta the sand.
@Blacca read Thomas Sowell. African Americans were more literate and their neighborhoods had less crime than inner city white neighborhoods up until the 60s. Destroying the family unit and then having gangsters heralded as role models for the black youth Id say is to blame.
@GeneralWillWelsh
If you want to dispute the merits of Joe's character, career, life experiences, or his misguided, yet realistic, advice, that's a completely different topic than the point I was making with my post.
The culture is very backwards, but it didn't start & get that way, on it's own, just because of...
No one said the division wasn't obvious, but hardly anyone talks about the real reason why that is so & yes, the "culture", the people, us, are in part to blame for advancing socioeconomic divisions, but why... why is it & how did it ever become like that... is the point I'm trying to elude to.
Most people don't ever seem to stop & take time to think about, acknowledge & address the origins of said beast...
Caucasians ( as we all know for sure) nor any of the others minorities be they Hispanics, Red Indians, Asians, Arabs, Hindus & any other darker people have not no way near experience the extreme racism that Black people have & still do.
During those years (and still today) you didn't see Hispanics (nor any other darker people) getting to the high degree as Black people did getting lynch or hung, have dogs sick on us, getting sprayed with fire holes, getting harass, beaten & killed as Black people did & still do.
Why would Hispanics need to unite with us when they have their own economic system & their own so-called Spanish speaking lands, so Hispanics have no need to unite with Black people. As the master teacher John Henry Clarke said Black people we are alone in our sorrows we have no friends but ourselves.
By the way those so-called Spanish lands are the lands of Black people because we were the first to inhabited all of those so-called Spanish speaking lands, as Black people are the first to inhabited every part of the planet earth.
@Blacca lmao nah the division is obvious. Its also obvious its the cultures fault. And dude encouraged robbing people as long as you dont kill the victim. Culture is backwards
What's so sad is you should be able to go where you wanna go and wear what you wanna wear without being robbed or killed...work for what you want period
@1's Bundy listen it's deeper than that these ppl sold they soul pay yo toll fuckem
No u should not !!! And that’s y’all problem ! Would u say a antelope should be able to walk through an African jungle without being eaten by lions and tigers? No because u know what lions and tigers do when they see antelopes ! There is no difference if a millionaire walks through a poverty ridden neighborhood waving his $200k chain around ! He just shouldn’t die for his chain
@Bcon2 they are gatekeepers they need to die
He into the scarficed game himself
Most of what Joe said was needed and on point. But if you don't understand why the audience laughed at his ridiculous statement that he's ok with you robbing someone, then you're buggin.
Fat Joe is a legend and he clearly a loving human being who loves the community and the culture. But the man ain't God. The brother is allowed to say something misguided and for the audience to respond accordingly.
As amazing as his intentions are, that statement demonstrates that he still has further to mature and evolve in his thinking (as we all do).
Robbing someone else is EVIL! Period.
It doesn't matter if you don't murder the person. It still would have been just as traumatizing for PNB, his girl and his kids.
Also.. how do you think robberies are so successful? Mfs don't just walk up and say,"sir, give me your money please". They do it with guns and weapons so off the rip, it's a crime that puts everyone involved in danger.
I know it sounds like a beautiful idea. But this fantasy world some of y'all live in where a thief can stick you up and both the victim & the thief can live hood happily ever after is a cartoon. It's not real life.
"legend"
@JaVion Riley One song? If you don't know, do your research and know what you talking about before you speak
@FRESHWHITEKING 1 DUDE. ROBBIN IS WRONG AND IS A VIOLENT CRIME. DON'T DO IT AT ALL. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING???.??
"Right" or "Wrong" is relative. Fat Joe is a street guy so he lives by a different moral code than someone with a clean record who works a 9 to 5. Since criminals will always be among us, Fat Joe's point was for those individuals to simply get what they need from the victim and keep it moving. Keep in mind that Fat Joe also critiqued these same rappers for not hiring a professional security team.
Joe was just acknowledging the reality of it…robbers gnna always be out here robbin, that fact will never change, but a life didn’t need to be taken in the process
THIS IS CRAZY, I didn't even know this type of thought and conversation was happening. IT MAKES SENSE.
Social media isn't the problem, jealousy, envy and the need for attention is. Some people have such a small existence that they want to be known as the guy that robbed or killed a rapper. They brag it and infuse into their identity. It's disgusting.
What Joe is saying is more so a first step. You can't expect someone in the streets to go legit overnight. But learning to rob without killing begins that mindset shift towards change.
@John Doe when u involved that the only thing will matter allat shit about this and that ain't there
@Chuh Wey bro being afraid to squeeze is not the same as being a killer.
@Chuh Wey lol I come from a line of criminals. From mobsters to regular street guys. So I know something. You have never been in the streets. So you don’t know anything about street culture. I’m like the first generation in my family to make it out and thrive. So don’t insult me. Street stuff isn’t cool but I understand the mindset I was one of the people with this flawed street mindset, Until I had a wake up call. The cannibalism nature to kill some one that look like you is more of a psychological hater for self. But whatever I’m not that invested in the topic. Life goes on
@John Doe Most aren't afraid to squeeze now in days, if you aren't involved don't act like you are
@Dwight Dwight Jr you don't know what you are talking about
I love Joe but his message was so convoluted w fact and nonsense. Rappers have created to some degree the culture and have 100% glorified it. Rappers are an endangered species? As if actions don’t lead to consequences.
@DUST that’s def false that area was nothing like that in the 60s or 70s. There wasn’t a prominent gang violence or “wolves” chain snatching till late 70s early 80s. Rappers have def created the culture and glorified it
Nah, that’s neighborhood he was in been like that since the 60s
Before hip hop existed.
Nothing to do with music
Can’t wear a steak in your neck infront or wolves.
They gonna eat.
Definitely is rappers will always have a target on their backs. Think of the life of you living because the rap life ain't cut out for everyone money jewels all materialistic things come and go but not your life.
This is a man who has lived long enough to see the entire timeline
And what 40- 50yr olds killing rappers man they getting killed by peers. That was some cap from Joey Crack smokescreen agenda
The young generation growing up HOPELESS is the most DANGEROUS.
I don’t know how they’re hopeless with all these solutions out here
@Aspa Ragus you would have to ASK them. From what I witnessed they have no COPING SKILLS. Plus AMERICA has a huge problem with ppl identifying themselves as VICTIMS.
How are you hopeless in a 1st world superpower country?
The fact that they laughing and joking during the knowledge this brother is blessing them with says everything you need to know about the current state of our community and this new generation coming up. I made my money and left the hood and never looked back.....I advise all my brothers who have found success to do the SAME. That staying to help pull up shit is a loss cause and will get you killed.
*I'm from the south side of Chicago
Fat Joe, you have to tell them the truth. Rappers have to move different than any other artist in different genres. Check in is real. Swallow that pride and check in accordingly.
You shouldn’t be eating chicken & waffles in Watts. Posting your location also. Why not a better part of town.
The problem is certain areas in LA got so many rival gangs that even if you checked in with one set the other gangs could care less! It’s the jungle for a reason
@Kyle let resident gangs know you are coming. For protection purposes.
@ahijah sellassie exactly
@ahijah sellassie Don't know if they have to check in. Unfortunately, it's a problem with no solution. The check in is to protect the artist. Snoop told Nas to check in with him when he comes to the city. That way no one messes with him.
Joe, if you're gonna be positive then be positive all the way. You want one foot in the money making "good world" and the other foot in the "grimey street sh-t world." WTF is "I don't mind people robbing?" Nah bro, robbing is a disgrace to our people and many have been seriously hurt or killed by being robbed. You sound like an adolescent who has a little maturity.
He’s literally the problem. Grown men like him that glorify being a gangster.
Point taken but I believe he was trying to not come off as a hypocrite since he himself in the past had robbed people. I agree with you 💯 percent but look at it from this perspective, robbing has been around since the beginning of time in varying degrees (aka Bret Favre stealing from the poorest state in America. And it’s about to get way worse when the recession hits full board! We can change the direction though if we all get on the same page and embrace integrity, morals and human decency.
@Christopher Ceelo Higgs I feel you but his message needs to evolve with maturity. Saying that it’s ok to rob somebody but just don’t kill sounds dumb af. The man ain’t a youngster either. Joe gotta be 50+ and still sounding half immature.
Sslute to Joe on this and speaking facts. He been doing the same shit when younger and he trying to tell people that you can change your life. Killing each other is the worst thing we do to ine another. Its sicking. We gotta stop it.
This
I agree with Joe, but people shouldn't be robbing people either. Even if you used to rob people that don't mean it's right. But Joe was being positive and he was right about everything he was saying, just not that part.
Look, people are going to rob regardless. That damage will be done, the thing is to try and minimize the whole scenario.
Yea but that’s not gonna change the mindset of some of these young people
That’s out here now a days, it’s just better to
Just rob someone then to rob and kill someone cuz now your just fucking shit up
Fat Joe just checked the whole audience?!?!? Thanks for being honest big bro
Naaa that's just straight stupid he should apologize n say let's not rob either cuz that a bad example.thats hypocrisy
Audience laughing cause they never been through what he said its all fun n games till it happens to you
Empire Records "Home of The Dead Rappers". King Von/Young Dolph/XXXtenacion/Drakeo/Mo3 Who's Next?chclip.net/video/DYfMJiwHnDU/video.html
Yea, they on some goofy shit
My point is no one should steal from anyone
Fat Joe wouldn't like it if it happened to him or his loved ones
I do see your point though
Material items are replacable
Facts, it's advisable to part ways from the hood if positive life changes happen. It's about energy and how rappers attract them. In order to be successful in that craft you have focus on what's ahead instead of figuring out what to bring forth from the past.
We need more people pushing that narrative. Great job Flo
It's not just jealousy. It's opportunity. Everybody wants to be on top and they do that by bringing down the people who are already there. They don't realize that they will ultimately lose
Much Respect to Joe Crack for the wise words n perspective. I agree 1000% with the brother. Thank you Charlamagne for another dope interview
He had some points but I don't like that he condone robbing people, lol. Rob them without killing them makes it better? How about just don't rob them, lol. Those people have families to feed as well with whatever little money they make a day. Point being, you can't really rob a place without a gun because the store owner might have one, so it always will lead to a dangerous situation where someone can be killed. So if we circle back to the root, nobody would have to die if nobody was robbing up a place, period.
I'm not condoning shit I'm talking about the reality of life it's not because you live right that the world is right you need to see the duality of this world
@Apostrophe S not really like I said evil exist since the beginning of time it won't ever stop trust
@Dria Fibromyalgia Fighter thank you it was really simple to understand
Rob the evil rich and wealthy
People gotta eat bro. Life aint that simple for everyone. Doubt alot of these guys wanna be robbing people.
How about not rob or kill them and just stay in your lane? People hustle to get to the top....why do people rob them of that?!
Thank you!
Why? Because we cannot admit we are haters and we need to be heart checked and know that if we work hard and grind, we can be successful. Some people live without unfulfilled dreams but hate because others are pursing and succeeding in theirs, we got to clean that cancer called hate out of us because this cycle is a hamster wheel that we all need to get off of. Like Joe said, ITS THE PEOPLE POWER. But if we cant get out of our own way we wont ever see it come true.
Love the message from Fat Joe. Side note his fit is fire and his Terror Squad chain is dancing.
Empire Records "Home of The Dead Rappers". King Von/Young Dolph/XXXtenacion/Drakeo/Mo3 Who's Next?chclip.net/video/DYfMJiwHnDU/video.html
One love to Joe Crack #salute. On the flip side, in regards to PNB it isn't always automatic jealousy...it could be a number of things from ramifications from old drama, it could've been just a cold blooded hit . We don't know what that individual had running in his own head, I bad that that guy had to lose his life. We gotta stop killing one another, and we gotta stay in our own lanes and definitely out of beefs especially others beef. I'm just speaking hypothetically. 1 man 1 brain Peace ✌🏻
Finally somebody with some sense talking…..Joe stated all facts💯💯 crazy how mfs in the audience was laughing smh RIL PnB Rock 🙏🏾 prayer up for his gf, family and friends!
@Nonymous right mfs on this thread is stupid asf
@Beyondd Beautiful he said that he's ok with robbery. How is that being misinterpreted??
@Rzn Joe didn't articulate it well but it was easily understandable what he meant.
@Beyondd Beautiful how?
@Rzn Wow it’s really disturbing how angry you are. I SAID WHAT I SAID! Get your panties out of a bunch lol Take it how you want to take…Now you have a good one. Goodbye ✌🏾
Shit hits me hard. Why all the killing! I mean it's ridiculous. I've seen someone got shot in front of me and they had nothing to do with the fight that was going on. Bullets got no name.
Unbelievable. I can’t believe he would think it was ok to say that.
I gotta say something about this. When he said let's not kill eachother I was with it. As soon as he said Rob him instead he lost me 😅😆
Fat Joe should feel 100% real STUPID for that comment....i grew up on FAT JOE and he knows how DUMB he sound....
All this is true but you have to move with caution when you’re in the hood and especially when you’re not in your own hood. We know what it’s supposed to be but it isn’t that way.
Joe speaking straight facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯
Salute Fat Joe, Living Legend.
Fat Joe was on point by checking the public...
Joe is speaking the truth from experience
Tell’em Joe… Sad Facts but real talk. Respect for the whole truth✊🏽He kept it 1000
Fat Joe speaking straight facts! Let's unite! we are all brothers and sisters.
💯🫡
@teiko are you okay ? Do you think it's only cartels ? You know they cook crack in their house right ? You know they have bigger dealers in their own neighborhood right ? Not related to the cartel at all you moron get educated
@Europa Alchemist Say that to the Cartels bringing that nonsense to African American communities. Joe CRACK promoted violence and drug culture, isn’t he an Hispanic?
@Europa Alchemist Black people #1 worst enemy is our natural born open enemy the Caucasians & the other darker people who have become our Junior oppressors. The number #1 killer of my people, other darker people & their own people as history & we see today have been proven to be WP.
@tamir sharif you need to educate yourself because that's the saddest thing I ever read. Y'all are your own worst enemies. Everyone gives you a chance no one is going after you. You are killing everyone and each other and hate each other. Learn that we are all human not races
I come from an island where majority of the people fight it out and shake hands afterwards because it’s not worth losing your life or taking someone’s life. People are afraid of ass beatings.
Damn joe u are telling the truth Joe 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Dude was talking mad shit to his opps and inviting that negative energy in his life and ya feel bad for him? He invited that shit. I never feel bad for these dudes that dying cuz of there own stupidity.
Joe speaking All Facts! 💯
Rip PNB! Amazing talent! That TS chain hittin🔥 Good interview!
That’s exactly what I said, why aren’t these OG’s protecting our culture. If you the man in the hood and the underworld. We tearing down what took 50 years to build. I remember when they wouldn’t have a Hip-Hop artist on the bill. Let alone have a Hip-Hop concert in a stadium. It keep going like this the only time you will be able to see a artist is on IG or some kind of streaming concert with no crowd. They’ll start shooting concerts like music videos. I remember that was the only time you seen a artist unless you went to a concert was a video.
Rap was never meant to fix anything. Rap is basically " Jive talking" or nonsense. LOL
ALL I CAN SAY AS A BLAQMAN IS THANK YOU MR.JOE..
Great episode and message.
And we wonder why other races and cops don't value our lives because we constantly show them that we don't value each other's life
@arnhay 💯💯💯…they’re not ready for that convo tho
@WTF! But WHY? It’s tough. We need to do better as a race (black) but we’ve started under the gutter and my Dad who’s 73 wasn’t born equal.
@arnhay Then maybe he should say, it doesn't help.
@arnhay lol yeah I hate that response because black people killing each other is a separate issue from racist killing us. Crime could stop today in the black community and it would still be violence. Look at what they did to black Wall Street. I agree though black people need to value each other life way more and stop killing each other.
How about we were treated like that from when the ships anchored. We were treated as no value for centuries and that’s how we value ourselves. So they are seeing their ancestors work (results). Not an excuse just saying.
For example, have a baby and for the next 18 years smoke, curse, have sex around and physically abuse that kid. Then at 18 send him out in the world….
Did I hear that right. He said it's ok to rob but not to kill. Let me correct what I heard. Lol - Let's say it is not ok to rob or kill.
It really bothers me how we find the truth to be funny in these moments that should shape the outcome of our lives. Social Media has killed our sense of what reality should be Vs what it is right now.. get me off this planet man. Heaven open its gates & burn the earth like kDOt said it’s no more… 🕊🙏🏾 rip all the real ones & god bless all y’all.
The Streets Don’t Love You .. Never Have Never Will .. If you wanna help the hood out do that shit from a distance
True
Seems like that's the true and honest way to go, because if you got bread, it's a chance robbery or murder will come from being in the hood..for the most part anyways
Facts
💯💯💯
Great Interview fat joe speaking facts
God I love Joe❤️ all facts!!!!!
"and they say it's the white man I should fear, but it's my own kind doing all the killing here" - Tupac
Yet another senseless crime & loss perpetrated by our own.
Someone let me know when & where the march & protest for this brotha will be..?
March and protest work.
Tool up
People have been advocating to stop the violence in the hood. It's just hasn't been television lately. White and blacks have become desensitized with all this killing. Whether your in the hood getting killed by your neighbor or in the grocery store shopping getting killed by a stranger who doesn't like you because of the color of your skin.
@Gemini Season 🎮
🤣 ... I was not expecting that response. That was a good laugh and I believe you're right on the money to that point. Very sad, if you think about it.
@Blacca Because critical thinking is hard.
@Gemini Season 🎮
Why do I always get the mindless simpletons under my posts... 🙄
Its not only a hip-hop thing. Success comes pre-packaged with haters. Be smart and get yourself secure. Dont assume everyone is happy with your success no matter how much love you show to the hood. Its common sense.
I only see people im hip hop doing this you don't see any other music doing this
Fat Joe keeps it 💯!!
As much as I love Joe Crack (FAT Joe) as an Artist and what he's done and given back to his community and peeps, I simply don't agree with that line of robbing peeps because it's traumatising for the victim and witnesses too.
How about don't rob People, How about getting yours, How about asking those who made it successfully in life to show you a path of success, How about asking them if they have a job for you or use their connection to get you a job, If you're that lazy or have tried looking for a job without finding any...How about just begging that successful Queen or King a few buck or food instead of "Robbing people when you dam' know you ain't ROBBIN HOOD"
I'm starting to realize that in every difficulty in life killing relationships ect if we just follow gods laws we would be way more happy and have peace
Always have been this way.
Treat people how you want to be treated simple as that
This 🤝🏾
The reality of these type of things is that in order to be in the hood with that type of status, the whole hood has to love you and fuck with you hard...fat joe used the example of big L and nipsey ,etc, and the reality is it only takes one person to hate you who can reach you, and then it could be game over..that's why joe also mentioned the LOX who got the hood they come from and are loved by basically all..but they also have wolves around who will get busy for them...they are so militant and not scared of their own people , but most importantly they don't front on their people or their hood...they are grown men who take care of their people and family..but like joe said, it's no security until puff is on a song, and then it's security lol because it becomes even bigger...so yeah it's sad that pnb couldn't even go have a beautiful bite to eat with his woman...it makes you think it be more to what be really going on...
One time for Fat Joe. 💪🏾
He was under the same record label as XXXtentacion, King Von and many artists who died young. The record Label must be behind this so that they can claim the life insurance of this artists and profit from it.
Man Joe was saying something. Didn't know he was that kind of brother.
He is a extremely ignorant Puerto Rican guy from the ghetto. He runs with thugs and criminals i, ncluding robbers. Now Joe wants to preach?
😂😂😂 this interview was funny as hell and a waste people in the studio laughing fat Joe talking about just rob em! !😂😂😂
I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.......❗️✌🏿👊🏿💪🏿💯
I love how he corrected the audience for laughing. He speaking the truth and someone found that funny?
@jahbless1 You sound dumb. If you couldn't properly interpret what he said that's on you
he said he's ok with ppl being robbed. he lost his credibility and that's funny
Fat Joe always keep it 💯💯💯💯💯
What a speech brother very well said joe✅
It's sad that a 52 year old man that lives in a mansion, rich, famous, kids are set for life couldn't just say robbing is bad. Don't do it. This man is 52 years old but wants to hold onto that list bit of "respect" from the hood. Being a gangsta is more important than giving the message. Thus shit is disgusting
@Rolls Royce yeah speaking in sayings. Good for you. Please don't say anymore you clown
What's understood doesn't need to be explained...but if that's all you got out of all that he said, I dont know what else to tell you....Peace
To many was these days to hustle and make money!!! We need people in these hood’s to teach all the options! The number one is EDUCATION!!! No more excuses for taking (robbing) other people!!
NOT EXPECTABLE!!!
Smart man... strength in numbers as a united front... no one entity can contend with the masses
@fatjoe great message & BX all day & good way to speak about this . RIP PNB
“legit security. not your man to hold the hammer”
couldn’t have said it any better.
Real talk 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Joe talking some shi
Fat Joe is preachin!!!! 🙌🏾
Rappers are "Endangered Species"?.......How bout we take a look at these "Rap Lyrics" that these rappers rap? Are we still just gonna keep lookin over that bottom line or can we be adults and have a real talk?
Justifying murder is not a good look. Do we look at horror film creators like we look at rappers?
@Edit name Of course it is. Lyrics, flexing, man how come all this do not happen to other genre ? LOL ^^
Noah they ca't. COz they will loose their moneys; LOL Hearing those guys saying 50y/old are gonna stick him up LMFAO ^^ Rapper is the dangeroust job ? LOL THose guys never worked their life, they don't know shit.And those guys are just flexing all the time , don't cry after it.
Fact.
I don't think it's a matter of the lyrics as much as it is a case by case basis because if you really living what you talk about you know what comes with it and that is called acceptance.. its just a Lotta of this idol worship is in the wrong place for the wrong reasons.
Fat joe gave my flashbacks of my teacher telling me and my friends to stop laughing when I was in 10th grade
What we're you laughing about?
He had me until he endorsed robbery...! But I get the larger point n enjoy hearing him speak. Great OG n great narrator n story teller n has done ALOT for his community .
I think he was looking at the way things are. Ideally I think he wants people to stop robbing too but that’s not the way things are so if people are going to rob, they shouldn’t kill. Don’t think he’s condoning robbing but it’s clearer has a lesser impact of the two.
Ain’t gonna lie!
But, sometimes someone will Hire a Hitman to do their Dirty Work by paying them and the Hitman doesn’t have a Heart so they just goes out their way and kills innocent by standers.
Honestly, said
Well said OG 👏
Fat Joe is a BX legend! Dropping gemz!
Charla, it's disgusting that you didn't go at Joe for saying just rob them. Damn man, IDK why we even expect more from you.
Amen! That's Hella knowledge and game! 💪 strength in numbers! The meek shall inherite thy 🌎 earth!
Facts, Joe 💯
What Joe said about rob him don't kill him went over so many heads it's almost impossible to tell a wolf that's hungry not to eat that's going to happen regardless but when you rob someone you have the decision not to kill and that's all he is saying take what you need to take but leave these people with their lives...if you think that you can convince a robber to do both than you haven't come from where we come from
Joe was spitting facts
Brother Malcolm X: You can’t hate the roots of the tree without ending up hating the tree. You can’t hate your origin without ending up hating yourself. You can’t hate the land, your motherland, the place that you come from, and we can’t hate Africa without ending up hating ourselves. The Black man in the Western Hemisphere-North America, Central America, South America, and in the Caribbean-is the best example of how one can be made, skillfully, to hate himself that you can find anywhere on this earth.
Not every criminal is a gangster, and not every gangster does criminal shit. Environment aside my generation lacks character 🤷♂️😪
Facts
Joe speaking facts
Fat joe is absolutely right, it’s jealousy. It’s sad to see what’s going on.
U the man phat Joe u right 100 💯 bro true life real talk
👏👏👏👏 well said Joey
Nah this was the realest shit I’ve ever heard fat Joe say. This shit amazing
Real talk 💯
Needed this one!!!!
Fat Joe, I’ve been saying that for a while. This past week I’ve been rambling about this.
Great message on point my Brother
We are not the same. Y’all can check “white” on applications. Stop the foolery.