10:56 Because A) Polish L-vocalization of Ł i.e. Ł shift from /ɫ/ to /w/ fully became standard speech in XIX-XX century (some Poles did use it earlier - but it was considered "peasant speech"). Before that common realization (and until middle of XX century proper realization - although often mixed alongside improper /w/) was /ɫ/ (i.e dark Ł vs light L). B) Polish writing of Ł dates to XV-XVI century. C) Polish case system often shifts L and Ł. And in case of Wymysorys: A) German also uses W as /v/ B) Look how Wymysorys uses Ł - eng.alone vs ałan - it is etymologically more sensible to use Ł.
I just discovered this channel today and I am hooked. It would be interesting to a video on German speakers in Canada. The Alsatian dialect of German in Eastern France and spoken by many in Ontario for generations. Aramaic spoken in Detroit from the Assyrian and Chaldean Christian communites. I recently interview a Chaldean poet from there who gave us interesting history lesson and its use within the local community.
Do you have a problem with how Polish uses the letter W? Or German for that matter? Is there really a legit reason why English usage should be the correct one?
Have you looked at the revival of Frisian? Apparently it's been fairly successful but the young folk talking among themselves have caused a major dialect implosion.
Many years ago I used to live in a house in London where there was an elderly couple in a flat upstairs who spoke Yiddish together. These short extracts sound quite like their Yiddish. I am familiar with Germanic languages, but have not heard of this one before. Another language enclave I know of but rarely hear mentioned is Wendisch, a slavonic language spoken in eastern Germany. Does that still exist? Thanks for this very interesting bit of history.
That’s extremely interesting, love seeing these videos, I think Miami and India r some of the most the interesting places for languages cause India even tho colonized by the British kept almost all local languages even ones that are only oral languages, and Miami has people that have been there 5 generations still speaking Spanish
Anecdotally, Poles seem to hold onto their language a bit longer than most ethnic groups in the US. I'm the last in my family to speak it reasonably well, but I'm third generation born in the US.
Since we are in the podbeskidzie region we should cover the Goral dialects.Albeit they are a polish dialect but they are spoken by an ethnic group separate from the poles,function like a microlanguage and are being codified in Slovakia.I can help if that is needed.
CHclip just now recomended this video and as I'm interested in all things about languages I started to watch. I'm Dutch and I was shocked as I could understand a bit of this language and I agree that it is somewhere in between Dutch and German. It sounds more as a dialect spoken in the border regions between the Netherlands and Germany then in the middle of Poland. Thank you for learning me about this language I had never heard of before. The subtitles in the language threw me of though, cause they were based on Polish sounds/letters they didn't make sense with what I was hearing from the spoken form.
Για σου μεγάλε! I just finished going through your backlog after discovering your channel from Reddit, fascinating stuff! You have a good attitude and a lot of potential. I’m excited to see what’s to come!
Sorry for replying only now, but hell yes, I absolutely love Livonian everything and I will eventually make a video about it, but it’s one of those things that I really want to put in the effort into and give it the quality it deserves. Coming in 3022.
Will you make videos about the Kven and Meänkieli languages? The only two languages descendant directly from Finnish. Kven is official in Norway and Meänkieli is official in Sweden. They're often called "dialects", but have now been officially recognized as minority languages in their respective country, and have developed in their own direction for a while.
@Dziki z lasu I'm not surprised that German has an official status. In many people's minds in that part of Europe WWI & II were regarded as anomolies. For centuries being regarded as an educated/cultured person pretty much required study of German as it was the most popular second langoage through most of Europe. Even today struggnig wiith German is a good way to avoid the 'dumb American tourist' classification.
It sounds like a Dutch with heavy Polish influences and uses the Polish alphabet, so it is like a language from an alternative reality, that we Poles actually would like for obvious reasons ;) BTW. German has an auxiliary language status in Poland
Yes, it is. One thing about Poland is that for most of its history it was more liberal than most of its contemporaries. There were exceptions but generally: - The Polish language was a required subject in schools but otherwise there linguistic minorities were left alone. - When minorities were kicked out of other European countries, Poland welcomed them (Jews) or at least tolerated them (Roma). - Poland hired/recruited a large number of Tartar solders who were Muslim in the 1300/1400's to help them repel repeated Mongol invasions. In exchange for their service they were offered deeded land in sparsely populated eastern lands. Poland followed through and that's how Poland got such a large population of Muslims compared to other European countries. Fun facts: - There were enough Muslims in Poland that enough emigrated to the US that TODAY there's a still POLISH MOSQUE in Brooklyn, NY, established in 1928. - I've read speculaton that one of reasons Hitler had such hatred for Poland was that Poland had so many Jews, Roma, & Muslims and the society worked. Note: When I say these positve things I'm talking as compared to other countries and according to the standards of the time, NOT by today's standards.
Yeah, you kind of need to know Polish and German, Dutch, or Platt to get any of it. This is all over Poland wherever there are/were linguistic minorities. My understanding is that Poland made Polish a compulsory language in schools and required fluency but otherwise let groups continue to speak their own languages.
Though called Siebenbürger Sachsen or Donauschwaben, the German dialects spoken in Transylvania are quite close to Moselle Franconian and Lëtzebuergesch/Luxembourgish.
People who fail in live strife to show (uneducated) hate towards groups of people. He is basically not better then a faschist. Hopefully he will start to lern and become respectfull one day.
Yes. The part where he said "young people are actually starting to speak it among themselves" really made it seem like it's going extinct and not being revived.
All is simple. That's YiddisH + Polnish languages. Who knows yiddish can understand this language. This proves that the Ashkenazim lived there long before the Germans, Poles, etc.
Polish Jews were 90% chazar Jews, ashkenassi Jews before 1920 were only 5% of all. Typical language used by medieval Jews in Poland, Silesia, Czechia or Lusatia was knaan which is the only one slavic language that uses Hebrew letters. Vilamovice was than a city on a boarder between Poland and Silesia.
When did the first Ashkenazim arrive? I know Poland accepted many who were kicked out of other European countries starting in the 1100 or 1200's. Just curious.
The world keeps coming up with surprises. I never thought that I'd discover a living Germanic language I didn't heard of. Wow
10:56 Because
A) Polish L-vocalization of Ł i.e. Ł shift from /ɫ/ to /w/ fully became standard speech in XIX-XX century (some Poles did use it earlier - but it was considered "peasant speech"). Before that common realization (and until middle of XX century proper realization - although often mixed alongside improper /w/) was /ɫ/ (i.e dark Ł vs light L).
B) Polish writing of Ł dates to XV-XVI century.
C) Polish case system often shifts L and Ł.
And in case of Wymysorys:
A) German also uses W as /v/
B) Look how Wymysorys uses Ł - eng.alone vs ałan - it is etymologically more sensible to use Ł.
I just discovered this channel today and I am hooked. It would be interesting to a video on German speakers in Canada. The Alsatian dialect of German in Eastern France and spoken by many in Ontario for generations. Aramaic spoken in Detroit from the Assyrian and Chaldean Christian communites. I recently interview a Chaldean poet from there who gave us interesting history lesson and its use within the local community.
Do you have a problem with how Polish uses the letter W? Or German for that matter? Is there really a legit reason why English usage should be the correct one?
Have you looked at the revival of Frisian? Apparently it's been fairly successful but the young folk talking among themselves have caused a major dialect implosion.
Many years ago I used to live in a house in London where there was an elderly couple in a flat upstairs who spoke Yiddish together. These short extracts sound quite like their Yiddish. I am familiar with Germanic languages, but have not heard of this one before. Another language enclave I know of but rarely hear mentioned is Wendisch, a slavonic language spoken in eastern Germany. Does that still exist? Thanks for this very interesting bit of history.
That’s extremely interesting, love seeing these videos, I think Miami and India r some of the most the interesting places for languages cause India even tho colonized by the British kept almost all local languages even ones that are only oral languages, and Miami has people that have been there 5 generations still speaking Spanish
@AK 565 wow that’s amazing, what part of the us are you from? Do you still speak polish much? Do u speak it outside of your house at all?
Anecdotally, Poles seem to hold onto their language a bit longer than most ethnic groups in the US. I'm the last in my family to speak it reasonably well, but I'm third generation born in the US.
Since we are in the podbeskidzie region we should cover the Goral dialects.Albeit they are a polish dialect but they are spoken by an ethnic group separate from the poles,function like a microlanguage and are being codified in Slovakia.I can help if that is needed.
Wilamowice is not Podbeskidzie, it is part of the so-called Silesian Country or Land of Oswiecim.
I'm from Poland and I never heard of this!! Keep it alive .. what an interesting story
CHclip just now recomended this video and as I'm interested in all things about languages I started to watch. I'm Dutch and I was shocked as I could understand a bit of this language and I agree that it is somewhere in between Dutch and German. It sounds more as a dialect spoken in the border regions between the Netherlands and Germany then in the middle of Poland. Thank you for learning me about this language I had never heard of before.
The subtitles in the language threw me of though, cause they were based on Polish sounds/letters they didn't make sense with what I was hearing from the spoken form.
Για σου μεγάλε!
I just finished going through your backlog after discovering your channel from Reddit, fascinating stuff! You have a good attitude and a lot of potential. I’m excited to see what’s to come!
The way the grammar is constructed reminds me a little bit of Kashubian which is also a bit in-between being Germanic and Slavic.
Please talk about livonian, my favorite uralic language, and possibly my favorite in the whole world
Sorry for replying only now, but hell yes, I absolutely love Livonian everything and I will eventually make a video about it, but it’s one of those things that I really want to put in the effort into and give it the quality it deserves. Coming in 3022.
@Google Is Cool 🇺🇦 yes
Interesting, is it in Latvia?
So glad to have found your channel mate, thank you kindly
Will you make videos about the Kven and Meänkieli languages? The only two languages descendant directly from Finnish. Kven is official in Norway and Meänkieli is official in Sweden. They're often called "dialects", but have now been officially recognized as minority languages in their respective country, and have developed in their own direction for a while.
I had no idea about this language and im from Poland 🤦 I hope it'll become more popular knowledge especially amog Poles.
Dopiero dziś o tym języku słyszałem.
I asked my cousins about it when I was in Poland. Only a few had heard of it.
Beautiful. A treasure to keep alive. Great video.
Excellent research!
I understand some of it, especially at the end when I could recognize the numbers
That's even more rare than Yiddish (which is also a West Germanic language).
Ir zolt makhn a vid vegn Yiddish.
Congrats for the video and your content!
Wow 🙂
Very informative
Polish not being French and preserving a language that reminds of German wow :o
@Dziki z lasu I'm not surprised that German has an official status. In many people's minds in that part of Europe WWI & II were regarded as anomolies. For centuries being regarded as an educated/cultured person pretty much required study of German as it was the most popular second langoage through most of Europe. Even today struggnig wiith German is a good way to avoid the 'dumb American tourist' classification.
It sounds like a Dutch with heavy Polish influences and uses the Polish alphabet, so it is like a language from an alternative reality, that we Poles actually would like for obvious reasons ;)
BTW. German has an auxiliary language status in Poland
The language seems amazing
But that coat of arms looks horrifying
The sounds of this lang remembers me sound of gothic and baltic langs.
Polish history is.....interesting.
Yes, it is. One thing about Poland is that for most of its history it was more liberal than most of its contemporaries. There were exceptions but generally:
- The Polish language was a required subject in schools but otherwise there linguistic minorities were left alone.
- When minorities were kicked out of other European countries, Poland welcomed them (Jews) or at least tolerated them (Roma).
- Poland hired/recruited a large number of Tartar solders who were Muslim in the 1300/1400's to help them repel repeated Mongol invasions. In exchange for their service they were offered deeded land in sparsely populated eastern lands. Poland followed through and that's how Poland got such a large population of Muslims compared to other European countries.
Fun facts:
- There were enough Muslims in Poland that enough emigrated to the US that TODAY there's a still POLISH MOSQUE in Brooklyn, NY, established in 1928.
- I've read speculaton that one of reasons Hitler had such hatred for Poland was that Poland had so many Jews, Roma, & Muslims and the society worked.
Note: When I say these positve things I'm talking as compared to other countries and according to the standards of the time, NOT by today's standards.
Great video
Another great vid
Best to listen at the speed of 0.75 .
Actually, as a Dutch-speaking person I could not understand a word of what she was saying.
Alsatian bro are disappering on France. French goverment persecutes alsatians speakers.
nice
Holy crap I didnt understand shit, literally only like 5 words in that entire clip
Yeah, you kind of need to know Polish and German, Dutch, or Platt to get any of it.
This is all over Poland wherever there are/were linguistic minorities. My understanding is that Poland made Polish a compulsory language in schools and required fluency but otherwise let groups continue to speak their own languages.
5:08 When was it part of Russia?
@Antymateria When the Russians puppetted Poland as a Commie state, it was under control of Russians.
He made an error and it actually wasnt a part of Russia at any point
Oh: Shaun, Sean, Shawn, Shaen?..
If, that is your actual name...
whY, Y; WhY wood You seperate linguistics; while simultaneously retain old 🗝️ words'?
Damn.
Mossad coping rn
Who needs that. If any language dies then good! Let it die, no use for that, period!
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Romania still has German speakers. Saxons
Though called Siebenbürger Sachsen or Donauschwaben, the German dialects spoken in Transylvania are quite close to Moselle Franconian and Lëtzebuergesch/Luxembourgish.
Remember that until WWI being an educated/cultured person in that part of the world meant speaking German fairly fluently
Labs
Good, another Teuton type goes extinct.
People who fail in live strife to show (uneducated) hate towards groups of people. He is basically not better then a faschist. Hopefully he will start to lern and become respectfull one day.
@Unitarian Savage And do what? I live in Kraków, I'll personally go over to that Kraut town and commit terrorist attacks.
Yes. The part where he said "young people are actually starting to speak it among themselves" really made it seem like it's going extinct and not being revived.
All is simple. That's YiddisH + Polnish languages. Who knows yiddish can understand this language. This proves that the Ashkenazim lived there long before the Germans, Poles, etc.
Polish Jews were 90% chazar Jews, ashkenassi Jews before 1920 were only 5% of all. Typical language used by medieval Jews in Poland, Silesia, Czechia or Lusatia was knaan which is the only one slavic language that uses Hebrew letters. Vilamovice was than a city on a boarder between Poland and Silesia.
When did the first Ashkenazim arrive? I know Poland accepted many who were kicked out of other European countries starting in the 1100 or 1200's. Just curious.