Lawyer Responds: John Oliver SLAPPs Back? (Real Law Review)

  • čas přidán 16. 11. 2019
  • John Oliver was sued by Bob Murrary for defamation. Was it really a meritless suit or is there more to the story? If you’re in the market for a great suit, I can’t recommend Indochino highly enough and Legal Eagles get a discount!
    Summary from Vulture:
    Remember back in 2017 when John Oliver did a Last Week Tonight segment about coal company CEO and “geriatric Dr. Evil” Bob Murray, then - as predicted - was sued by Bob Murray the following week? Oliver couldn’t discuss the lawsuit while it was ongoing, but we did get an update when the case was dismissed in February 2018, when Oliver, referencing the original segment, told Murray to “eat shit.” What you might not know, however, is that Murray appealed the case after it was dismissed, so Oliver was yet again forced into silence until the case was recently dropped. Which brings us to last night’s Last Week Tonight, when Oliver was finally free to recap the entire saga … and, in doing so, to start a whole new saga too.
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  • LegalEagle
    LegalEagle  Před 2 měsíci +648

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    • Shawn Elliott
      Shawn Elliott Před 5 hodinami

      @Malakkar Vohryzek: Another thing: Hiring an attorney means you are personally responsible if you hire one who is incompetent, whereas being assigned an attorney means "The System" has failed you if you are assigned one who is incompetent. Who would accept an unfavorable outcome of a lawsuit if they believe "The System" betrayed their best interests and set them up to lose? Nobody. "The System" is more trustworthy if its responsibility is limited in scope, and it is of the utmost importance that the courts be considered trustworthy.

    • Malakkar Vohryzek
      Malakkar Vohryzek Před 5 hodinami

      @Shawn Elliott no one hires their emergency room doctor, which arguably, is the most important person to hire based on ability. If you're picky, what's stopping you from doing an interview with an appointed attorney, and recusing based on answers?
      Also, you don't get to hire police, ambulances or firemen, are you arguing that you should be able to, and that if you were able to, somehow emergency response would be better?
      Your examples just do not make sense. If people can't recognize in advance that their attorney is not going a good job, so recusal or disqualification isn't a good methodology for getting rid of a bad attorney, what does being able to hire them with money change?
      Are you saying that the act of hiring, makes one more capable of evaluating their attorney's performance? How? How does hiring them, make one more prescient of ability and pre-evaluation of performance?
      I simply don't understand what your position is here...

    • Shawn Elliott
      Shawn Elliott Před 5 hodinami

      @Malakkar Vohryzek: Recusing or disqualifying your attorney requires that you know enough about the proceedings to recognize in-advance that they will not do a good enough job. Unless you get sued on a regular basis you will not have the requisite experience to evaluate your attorney's competence before the verdict is rendered.
      I'm not saying everyone should have to pay for their own attorney. It's good that we have public defenders. But they should not be the only option. Extremely picky people who don't trust experts by default, such as myself, should be allowed to hire their own attorneys if they can afford to, just like we also do with doctors.

    • Malakkar Vohryzek
      Malakkar Vohryzek Před 6 hodinami

      @Shawn Elliott so our jury system doesn't work? You can use a similar system to recuse or disqualify an attorney for misconduct, or lack of effective assistance of counsel.
      There's even a standard for it, it's called Strickland v. Washington.
      However, more importantly, your example leads one down some very treacherous pathways, using the same justification you have -- when was the last time you decided which military personnel you want to hire to handle our national defense? Or hired your own prosecutor?
      Do you have to tell 911 which EMTs are acceptable to provide your emergency health service, or which firefighters are to come over and combat the blaze, if your home is on fire, or which police officers command an appropriate hourly rate, that they can properly enforce the law, or investigate a crime, in order to be responsible?

      More importantly, taking responsibility for hiring a good attorney, when the base line for hiring an attorney is $350 an hour, is comical. A "good" attorney will likely charge 750-950 an hour. Median income in the U.S. is like $42,000. After taxes, that's $32,000 more or less. After housing and living expenses, that's about $16,000 leftover. With no car, no medical, nothing else, you can afford the average attorney, at $500 an hour, is 32 hours.
      So if any case requires more than 32 hours in a year, you are unable to take personal responsibility for hiring a good lawyer, because you do not have the economic means. Unless you're of the camp that says, equality means both rich and poor are free to live under a freeway overpass. A camp I thoroughly reject, and a rationale that is literally without any sense behind it.

    • Shawn Elliott
      Shawn Elliott Před 7 hodinami

      @Malakkar Vohryzek: Socializing law only works if all attorneys are equally competent. Otherwise you're asking people to hope they are assigned a good attorney, rather than taking personal responsibility for hiring a good attorney.

  • Jon Annett
    Jon Annett Před 9 hodinami


  • The Llama God
    The Llama God Před 21 hodinou

    As a guy who thought about law school for about half a year in college (getting a bachelors in audio production thinking about a career in copyright law), I do enjoy your channel.

  • Richard Farley
    Richard Farley Před 21 hodinou

    Isnt bob murray that one guy who told Leopold II that the Congo was lovely this time of year?

  • thedogmancaper
    thedogmancaper Před dnem

    I believe Bob Murray once lost a penis measuring contest with a chinchilla.

  • Gabiup2
    Gabiup2 Před dnem

    Activity comment - this deserves it.

  • Dalton Chew
    Dalton Chew Před dnem

    Bob Murray told the Gestapo where Ann Frank was hiding.

  • Living Myth
    Living Myth Před 2 dny

    SLAPP suits are capitalism distilled into its most pure, filthy essence.

  • Mr. Magnificent
    Mr. Magnificent Před 2 dny

    Bob Murray? Is he that awful TV host guy from Joker?

  • Mr. Magnificent
    Mr. Magnificent Před 2 dny

    You’re awful Murray.

  • Mr. Magnificent
    Mr. Magnificent Před 2 dny

    How about another joke Murray?

  • Jim Huang
    Jim Huang Před 2 dny

    Interesting. It is quite different from New Zealand, which is similar to UK/AUS system. It is quite hard to sue anyone in New Zealand. We also have something called "Disputes Tribunal", which isn't like a formal court. You usually represent yourself in a hearing - a lawyer can’t represent you, and there are no judges. It is for settle small claims up to $30,000.

  • Cheratomo
    Cheratomo Před 3 dny

    Bob Murray? Isn’t he the guy that tempted Eve into Original Sin?

  • MegaChickenfish
    MegaChickenfish Před 3 dny

    Best ad transition on the channel, that's for sure.

  • Fillbert
    Fillbert Před 3 dny

    Isn’t Bob Murray the guy who invented mustard gas?

  • Todd R
    Todd R Před 3 dny

    We need to take it even further and have Anti Bitch Slapp laws

  • Lindsey Eastman
    Lindsey Eastman Před 3 dny

    Bob Murray? You mean the guy who poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague on our houses!

  • twothreebravo
    twothreebravo Před 3 dny

    Stifle it Edith.

  • Original Individuals
    Original Individuals Před 3 dny +1

    I couldn't sue my boss when she failed to pay me for 3 months of work cause the lawyer would have taken all the money that was owed to me

  • Kevin Campbell
    Kevin Campbell Před 3 dny +1

    What's all this I hear about Bob Murray killing minors? He's one of my favorite actors. Meatballs was forgettable, but The Razor's Edge was a great film, and what...?, wait, Bill Murray? Nevermind... Miss you Gilda... You are still remembered.

  • Farista Sairuv
    Farista Sairuv Před 4 dny

    Bob Murray is a genuinely terrible person who hates his workers (like all rich people do), is killing the environment, and he is against freedom of expression.

  • Joey Farish
    Joey Farish Před 4 dny

    Bob Murray? you mean the guy who pardoned all those pedophile priests and sent them back to work?

  • Morgan Wiedensmith
    Morgan Wiedensmith Před 4 dny +1

    If you edit your videos you should stop zooming in and out that tiny amount, if you don’t tell your editor to stop doing it. It’s a little distracting and looks kinda sloppy

  • MarkEdwardRom
    MarkEdwardRom Před 5 dny

    Was Bob Murray the same guy that killed John wicks dog, infected a young love stuck girl named Bella with vampire venom and had massacred a village full of civilians to cover up an extraction mission?

  • ForeverMe543
    ForeverMe543 Před 5 dny

    Bob Murray was a man who was kissed by a princess and turned into a coal frog 🐸

  • Andrew Jackson
    Andrew Jackson Před 5 dny

    Bob Murray? Isn’t he Melania’s first husband who traded her to Trump for $6 and a night with the Moscow hookers that would later feature in Trump’s golden shower video?

  • Matthew Battles
    Matthew Battles Před 5 dny +1

    I heard Bob Murray used an ejector seat when he flew into the world trade centre...

  • Bobby Corwen
    Bobby Corwen Před 6 dny

    Not gonna lie, from a french guy's perspective: Having to pay your attorney's fees even in the case of a successful defense is a definite factor in why people around the world think that the US' system is... Well, lacking if we put it kindly, and plain flawed if I'm being honest. I get it, you're the capitalists and all that jazz, but money really doesn't need any more power than it currently has.

  • BlueLightningSky
    BlueLightningSky Před 6 dny

    So basically in the UK it's like a Pokemon battle except with lawyers.

  • Charles Mcdonald
    Charles Mcdonald Před 7 dny

    Bob Murray once filled an entire christmas stocking with bricks and ran around slapping orphans in the face with it

  • Dean Gonzalez
    Dean Gonzalez Před 7 dny

    Loser should pay legal fees - Brittish system is better in on this - worst thing about US legal system that needs to be changed, but greedy lawyers will never let it happen - sad.

  • Sneaky Bunny
    Sneaky Bunny Před 7 dny +3

    America: where you're guilty until proven innocent.

  • Brandon Martin
    Brandon Martin Před 7 dny

    Nice story until the plug.

  • AgapeForgotten
    AgapeForgotten Před 8 dny

    Lenard French read a great "Friend of the court" filing concerning this case that was hilarious. It's
    ACLU Files Brief in Murray Energy v. John Oliver

  • saw2135
    saw2135 Před 8 dny

    Bob Murrary makes soylent green.

  • Jon Moore
    Jon Moore Před 8 dny

    Lawyers are a waste of time I tried to get one to repent me no luck I end up taking two meds that have been proven to cause pancreatitis now I have severe acute pancreatitis that can turn into cancer I ask a lawyer about it nothing they can due but if it turn into cancer now that a lawsuit
    So let me get this straight I can sued for saying something bad but I have to wait to get cancer to do something makes sense

  • Alexander Luft
    Alexander Luft Před 8 dny

    Bob Murray? The guy who ate a census worker's liver with some Fava beans and a nice Chianti.

  • Lee
    Lee Před 9 dny

    Bob murray drinks children blood. I said it.

  • MegaAlpakka
    MegaAlpakka Před 9 dny

    Only 30 states have anti-slapp? Is that more or less than the amount of states that have banned child marriage?

  • geared4 the truth
    geared4 the truth Před 9 dny

    Looks like another way the establishment elites use their influence and power to create more inequality

  • Jason Jenista
    Jason Jenista Před 9 dny

    So question..may I approach the bench.. Thank you. So attorneys fees in the US. Is it legal lets say with a custody suit to put in the paperwork that if you lose you pay the fees for the other party?? Again this is in the US and not concerned with any other country. Any input is appreciated

  • Tedworthington
    Tedworthington Před 9 dny +1

    Bob Murray? Isn't that the guy who goes around licking urinal cakes?

  • markijacksepticpie
    markijacksepticpie Před 9 dny

    Why did you not include a link to John Oliver's video? Seems irresponsible to me but I am most certainly not a lawer

  • Michael Smallman
    Michael Smallman Před 9 dny

    Bob Murray? Isn’t that the guy who killed MLK?

  • charles harper
    charles harper Před 10 dny

    Something tells me that Bob Murray learned why you don't file lawsuits against comedians...Like Trump vs Maher...

  • Monique Bell
    Monique Bell Před 10 dny

    I am so proud of this comment section XD

  • Dajiyah Mcae
    Dajiyah Mcae Před 10 dny

    What’s up with all the mid-rolls, aren’t you a lawyer?

  • Mysterious Woman
    Mysterious Woman Před 10 dny +1

    Bob Murray?? The guy who shot Abraham Lincoln???

  • Sandra Nelson
    Sandra Nelson Před 10 dny

    Trump is the master of SLAPP suits. People who he owes money to for a lot of contracting work have tried to sue him to make him pay their bills, and he just overwhelms them with lawyers and extended trial situations. Until eventually these people who EARNED the money Trump owes them, have no choice but to quite, because they run out of money. Trump is also forcing people to sign NDAs when there is no reason for it. No legal bases for it.
    I believe Stormy. And I have a lot of Actual Malice towards Trump.

  • Adam D
    Adam D Před 11 dny

    Ok so..... British system good, American system bad (in a nutshell).
    Ps Bob Murray isn’t he the guy that shot the Lock Ness monster after Nessie refused to get on his office floor to look for his pee rock

  • L. A.B.
    L. A.B. Před 11 dny

    Bob Murray? Is that the same Bob Murray that can't exist in the physical world unless he has the power of the One Ring in his possession? I heard he was last spotted in a land called Mordor near Mount Doom, over there they call him "The Great Eye". I wonder what he's up to..

  • Peterowsky
    Peterowsky Před 11 dny +1

    As someone from a civil law country: the american system of lawyer fees is INSANE. It doesn't encourage a pursuit of justice, quite the opposite in fact.

  • Esteban LV
    Esteban LV Před 11 dny +8

    22 minutes to say: everything John Oliver said is true. Go watch his video instead, which is much more entertaining.

    • logan marks
      logan marks Před 9 dny +1

      Thank you looking at the comment trying to find if it was worth watching the whole video

  • jasonsadventure
    jasonsadventure Před 11 dny

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  • smaench pirate
    smaench pirate Před 11 dny

    Bob Murray? The rat that brought the plague to Europe?

  • scott Johnson
    scott Johnson Před 11 dny

    Why are you allowed to place a law suit in any state if you or the defendant don't even live there or have anything to do with that state?

  • scott Johnson
    scott Johnson Před 11 dny

    This helped me understand John Oliver's episode because i didn't know even if you won you still had to pay all your own fees, but you cleared that up for me right away haha, didn't realise that about America.

  • Matthew Scammell
    Matthew Scammell Před 12 dny

    The meteor that struck the earth and killed the dinosaurs was actually Bob Murray's kidney stone.

  • Crusher O'Lies
    Crusher O'Lies Před 12 dny

    notice what he said, the court assumes everything the plaintiff says is true. ie you are NOT innocent until proven guilty, you are guilty until you can prove your innocence.

  • Qardo
    Qardo Před 12 dny

    This is basically what happens in India all the time. You cannot even make a funny and yet true statement about someone without being sued for Defamation and end up losing in India Courts (not all the time. Unless you are poor. You lose all the time).