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Manufacturing plywood boards: then and now

  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2017

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  • Walter Bryan
    Walter Bryan Před rokem +242

    I always wondered how they made the stuff. I didn’t know a tree trunk was “peeled” and rolled out. Interesting.

    • Simon Bolsens
      Simon Bolsens Před 2 měsíci

      fieze kkr flikers

    • God Speed
      God Speed Před rokem +1

      @Daily Dose of Rips so what?
      Why people like u even exist... Enjoying the modern era and then bitching about environment safety...
      Don't reply cause it will probably be dumb anyways..

    • El Chapo
      El Chapo Před rokem

      Now you do.

    • Hamilton Massey II
      Hamilton Massey II Před rokem


    • Daily Dose of Rips
      Daily Dose of Rips Před rokem +2

      $$$$$$$$$$$$ but you can’t trick Mother Nature she will catch up sooner or later lol

  • JLK
    JLK Před 4 lety +1490

    I love how the log core waste from back then is thicker than the logs used now...

    • wboquist
      wboquist Před 9 měsíci

      @Aurum Faber I know that solid wood, kept dry, will still be as strong as it is now in a 100 years. I don't know whether the glue in engineered lumber will still enable it to be as strong as it is now in 100 years. There are solid timber buildings still standing that are more than 400 years old.

    • BitBuhkit
      BitBuhkit Před rokem +1

      @Mike King "The "pith" in the log center is worthless, not even good for a fence post."
      No such thing. The "cores" today are typically peeled down to around 3" diameters.
      It has nothing to do with a "pith", and only to do with how well the last little bit will uncurl and also not "chatter" in the peel because that makes it rough. Rough veneer does not take the glue very well.
      And no, the cores are not "worthless", we sell over 90% of our cores.
      They are worth more than chips right now for us.
      When we used to peel down to a larger size, each core would make (2) 2x4's of the normal Standard and Better grade.
      Not worthless at all...

    • James Metelski
      James Metelski Před rokem

      trees that big are rare nowadays...those trees were hundreds of years old if not older... very sad, especially how they wasted those cores back then...

    • Japonas As
      Japonas As Před rokem

      @Daniel Zrim 1st video is in America and the 2nd is in Finland and i don't think that there are Douglar Fir (i think i spelled it right?) In Finland i am pretty sure Pines and Birch trees are most common and easiest to do mass plantations with. As well birch grows fast AF

    • manfmalachi
      manfmalachi Před rokem

      It surely is. I think at my mill we haven't had old growth as our source for years
      All replanted trees and very young. The Knott's are three inches apart on repeat

    LYPOI Před rokem +89

    I was actually impressed with the 50's mill. The process was actually pretty sophisticated and pretty well mechanized. There was even a guy wearing a hard hat. Was really sad to see the giant trees felled for this though.
    They should have also included OSB plywood. Since most modern homes constructed (in Canada at least) do not use laminated plywood. Maybe some of the cabinetry, but not much.

    • BipBip
      BipBip Před 4 měsíci +3

      @Bim M ??? are you able to impressed by only one thing ? if so you are living a sad life

    • Charles Jones
      Charles Jones Před rokem

      @Bim M lmao

    • Bim M
      Bim M Před rokem +2

      Lol people build castles and the great wall of China and people making plywood is what got you 🤣

  • Slayer Mack
    Slayer Mack Před rokem +1259

    The dude walking across the logs in the water made it look so easy.

    • Ari Lehtiniemi
      Ari Lehtiniemi Před 11 měsíci

      Back here in Finland i saw an old (short) dude stand on a log that was floating on a pond. Then he rolled the log in both directions while standing on it. Then he was standing on the log on his HEAD for a few sec. He was the traditional Finnish logger, old school. They used to go down rivers standing on logs. "Log riding."

    • oompa lumpus
      oompa lumpus Před rokem

      @The Jman I doubt it. The average modern human being is a flesh ball made of cheese, farts, and entitlement. They can barell walk a few meters without tripping on their own feet.

    • Montana Snowman
      Montana Snowman Před rokem

      Yeah until one rolls and you fall then it rolls back and you're stuck under with zero air pocket.

    • Salty Canadian
      Salty Canadian Před rokem

      It is, the weight of him walking across such a heavy log with so much resistance in the water would make it really stable. Compare the 4’ wide log to the 2” log you see in the log ROLLING competitions

    • Avarice21
      Avarice21 Před rokem

      Almost like he gets paid to do that or something.

  • Boner Jams '03
    Boner Jams '03 Před rokem +1848

    I didn't realize the 1950's sawmills operated to the dankest of dope ass beats...

    • Digitalhunny
      Digitalhunny Před 9 měsíci

      🎶...For he goes burling down and down white water
      That's where the log driver learns to step lightly
      Yes, birling down and down white water
      The log driver's waltz pleases girls completely... 🎶 -
      Kate & Anna McGarrigle (1979)
      _for_ 'A Part of Our Heritage' _by:_ The Canadian National Film Board 😁👍
      CHclip Link: chclip.net/video/Srp7k-9oCkw/video.html

    • BitBuhkit
      BitBuhkit Před rokem +1

      @FireFacts lol, you just dismissed about 40 women that work on the floor of our planer, plywood plant, LVL plant and even a saw filer.
      I'll let them know that they don't really count or exist in "your" eyes.
      lol, I have worked in this industry for 40 years, you know not what you speak when it comes to other places than yours...

    • FireFacts
      FireFacts Před rokem

      @BitBuhkit Not at all. I am being bombarded with "opportunities" as you say from every side. But you seem to think that I am wrong about this. Look I own a factory complex. Our office's are full of Vamen (about 65%) including our HR that is exclusively composed by ladies and our factory is almost entirely men. Out of our 186 factory staff we have only 4 of them are female workers. Our neighboring factory has the same story. Harder industries have greater gender disparity than us too. Take the Saw mill down the street from us for example out of the 50 some people that work there only two of them are ladies and the are doing managerial tasks. They don't do hard or dirty jobs. They only do work in a nicer airconditioned environment with comfortable chairs. Perhaps you are the one that needs to get out more. The real world is more unequal than ever before.

    • BitBuhkit
      BitBuhkit Před rokem +1

      @FireFacts Geez, struggle much to find opportunities to use buzz words?
      Lots and lots of modern ladies do this today. Many of them in our company.
      You should get out more, see some of the real world.

    • Matthew Deavitt
      Matthew Deavitt Před rokem

      And what do You do for a living you left wing idiot?
      Obviously Nothing that would make your Grandma proud.

  • Dean Wild
    Dean Wild Před 3 lety +515

    The 1950s factory was actually way more high tech than I was expecting

    • Sean Rodgers
      Sean Rodgers Před rokem

      Having a father who grew up with WW2 rationing, I am acutely aware that the most recent generations are a bunch of lame ass pansies. I'd say more, but I don't want to be seen complaining. I saw the cultural roots of the decline get going in the 80s, but it's probably the "me" generation that started it, and had their kids in the 80s.
      It's theorized that the American manufactured food diet is responsible for poor health and mental decline. Still, it's the culture that is responsible for most of the lack of mental fortitude. It's not the same in non-western countries. Good times create weak men ...
      Turns out that, trying to increase people's self esteem without having them achieve anything, is the worst thing that you can do to someone.

    • Acetyl
      Acetyl Před rokem

      @Sean Rodgers Modern people are actually vastly inferior to the generations that came before in almost every dimension. Health, intellectual capacity, hell, even and especially the way they dressed was better.

    • Jose Avalos
      Jose Avalos Před rokem

      Year relay ladder logic is pretty old tech

    • Nathan
      Nathan Před rokem

      @Yury Pavuls many people today still don't. Just depends where you're at.

    • RenegadeRukus
      RenegadeRukus Před rokem +1

      @Yury Pavuls sarcasm and stupidity are easy to mistake when you aren't good at sarcasm...
      aka. your jokes suck dumdum.

  • Phil Boardman
    Phil Boardman Před 3 lety +7

    It’s amazing to see that in the old days, the difference in the diameter is one that the “waste” of the Douglas fir core is about the same as what the modern Finnish company was using (in relative terms of course). Loved watching both operations! Thanks for showing us this video....Phil

  • R R
    R R Před 2 lety +7

    I worked 4 summers for Weyerhaeuser on both the green end (where the wet boards are fed into the dryer machines) and the dry end where they are graded for the size of the imperfections before going to the ply-veneer machine. It was grueling, but working there put me through college and taught me the value of hard work.

  • stitchergary
    stitchergary Před 2 lety +84

    About 60 years ago, when I was about 4 years old, I remember riding in the back seat of my parents car in Ontario, Canada and looking down and seeing the river full of cut logs.... I was fascinated and asked my father why and how they got in the river...

    • MeMe BoI
      MeMe BoI Před rokem

      @CDeezy i mean you are telling the truth

    • MeMe BoI
      MeMe BoI Před rokem +2

      @PBandJacob yeah i know

    • Kevin Guzman
      Kevin Guzman Před rokem +2

      @witty dev wow rude

    • PBandJacob
      PBandJacob Před rokem +4

      @MeMe BoI I know right. His story applies to the video no pun intended lol

    • MeMe BoI
      MeMe BoI Před rokem +13

      This guy was telling a story and you guys had to be toxic?

  • Artist Jacob
    Artist Jacob Před rokem +14

    As a naval mine warfare historian, I find the inventor of plywood, Immanuel Nobel, to be fascinating. (1) He invented the first mines purchased on a large scale for military use. These mines were successfully used in the Crimean War to defend the approaches to St Petersburg. (2) One of his sons, Ludvig, invented the oil tanker ship, and together with his brother Robert basically founded the Russian oil industry. (2) A 3rd son, Alfred, invented dynamite. When a French newspaper mistakenly reported the death of Ludvig as being that of Alfred, and reported rather unflatteringly on Alfred’s life, Alfred bequeathed in his will his entire fortune to be used to reward advances in various pursuits, the highest of which is peace. That prize is known as the Nobel Peace Prize.
    Not a bad legacy for the inventor of plywood!

  • Old Hippie
    Old Hippie Před 3 lety +1

    I have been in construction since the late 70's, what you shown here was what is called pressed board. The next class is where all the little chips are glued and pressed and that is called particle board. i worked for columbia forest products and have made both of those kinds of so called plywood. back in the 70 and before plywood was a solid piece of wood 4 ft 1/4th by 8 1/4th ft or 12 ft 1/4th in, in length. those kind of trees have all been long cut down to make solid plywood. This why you cannot buy big solid wood furniture any more

  • Sean Rodgers
    Sean Rodgers Před rokem +127

    1954: alternating directions
    2016: at right angles
    Using different words for exactly the same thing makes it so much more hi-tech.

    • Digitalhunny
      Digitalhunny Před 9 měsíci

      2089 - 000 00 00 0000 0 00000 000000

    • Acetyl
      Acetyl Před rokem

      I agree, the terminology was stupid and needlessly "omg le mathy stuff XD". All you're doing is alternating the grain direction with each layer. That's it. There is no need for degrees of anything, it's extremely simple.

    • Sean Rodgers
      Sean Rodgers Před rokem

      @The Monster Under Your Bed I made a comment about sawmills in Canada and Finland. How did you turn that into an American political argument? Neither of your extremes is correct, reality is much more complex. Your right people have some correct ideas but hang their hats on nonsense ideas that alienate sensible people while the left have divorced themselves from any concept of objective reality. No wonder you can't find a sensible leader.

    • Niko Bitan
      Niko Bitan Před rokem

      @The Monster Under Your Bed You saying that the left is wrong about everything is as convincing as saying that 2+2=5 or that the scientists are wrong about the Earth being round. Sure, you can _say_ it. Anyone can vomit out bs, but your ability to vomit does not give your bs merit. The left aren't the ones known for consistently lying and falling for very transparent lies that tend to be at odds with scientific consensus. You yourself demonstrate this by not only lying that the left is wrong about everything (demonstrably false), but also by lying that the right's backwardness has nothing to do with their hostility towards women and minorities, despite many of them openly admitting to their supremacist ideology and resulting double standards, and studies consistently showing this.

      ΞΝCΞLΛDUS Před rokem

      @Tony Griffin there's always one guy...

  • Brendan Matelan
    Brendan Matelan Před 11 měsíci +1

    I work at a lumber company, and we watched this during some classroom instruction. The whole time I was comparing to how laxed the safety was back in the 1950s, compared to now. This is well before OSHA, and they certainly did things WAY different 70 years ago. It's honestly stunning for me.

  • Bait & Wait Outdoors
    Bait & Wait Outdoors Před 4 lety +1

    I did this for two years about 10 years ago. The second have skips from drying to finishing and does not show how it’s assembled. It’s all assembly line and still very manual. Southern pine 🌲 is what was used in the southern United States. We called patching, footballing. Also, what was showcased here was the most ideal state... 303 or high quality. Most of the time you’re running RS and the wood is brittle and broken up. So on the assembly line you are hustling to put a puzzle together to make the “rectangle” before it gets to the press. It’s brutally hot in the summer and frigid in the winter. It’s so loud you spend an entire 12 hour shift in your own thoughts unable to coherently speak to anyone near you and communication is limited to made up sign language that you learned meant “break time”. I got more out of this job than any other... perspective and humility.

  • Timothy Bradek
    Timothy Bradek Před rokem +133

    Speaking of gloves, one fast rule is that you never wear them operating machinery.. such as feeding a rip saw. And to my surprise, pulling venear and core off the dryers, just how quick a man's hands calluse and toughen up. Besides, those typical thick canvas gloves only last maybe a week and a half, at tops, anyway. Loved the work, but that was there and then, not here and now w/ technology. My favorite postion was spreaderman, just before the Hot press. Thanks

    • Screaming Eagle
      Screaming Eagle Před 9 měsíci +1

      @Tim New if leather gloves wear out in a couple days just thinkn how long even "toughened" skin on your hands will last in a couple days. Not adding up.

    • Romeojackass
      Romeojackass Před rokem +3

      @Yucol better than getting maimed or killed dude. no gloves on most of heavy machinery is a must. Go use anyting rotary or in any kind of motion with gloves on, if nodoby smacks you in the head making you take em off than nobody has a clue. A nasty cut or some splinters is better than your arm running in the lathe, or you running with it. Short sleeves, tight clothes, no dangling hairs and NO GLOVES.

    • Yucol
      Yucol Před rokem +1

      @Bacon Snot doesn’t “toughen up” mean “live with the injuries and keep working until you physically can’t and are out of a job”?

    • MetalArcticSC
      MetalArcticSC Před rokem +2


    • Tim New
      Tim New Před rokem +1

      Don't wear gloves and you might get a dozen splinters in your hands before the day was over. But you are correct. Those leather gloves didn't last more than a few days. Some would use heavy rubber gloves. Especially on the dry end of the dryers where the sheets of veneer were pulled out and graded from.

  • POTThaesslich
    POTThaesslich Před rokem +196

    Should have said that the size of the “scrap”log in the old times is the size of today’s starting log.

    • Ewan McLean
      Ewan McLean Před rokem

      @Nostradumbass Alright, thanks for the information, that’s actually pretty interesting. No need to be so aggressive, I’m not sure what could have provoked you.

    • Nostradumbass
      Nostradumbass Před rokem

      @Ewan McLean Nowadays it would be reused but back then i guarantee it was thrown into a pile and left to rot, those old wood processing plants where very well known for wasting vast amounts of product that they had no direct use for, i know because i live near several of them and have seen the piles of rotten cores myself, so you might wanna check yourself before saying who is right and wrong.

    • Nostradumbass
      Nostradumbass Před rokem

      @Magnus Magnusson wow thats the worst analogy i think i have ever seen... bravo, you clearly dont understand how things where done in the early industrial age in America. But keep arguing your null point. Your literal words are "they dont mention the core wood is not waste" I quoted you the exact line that they used to say that it is waste, stop typing you are only making yourself look foolish...

    • James Osborne(Edible Future)
      James Osborne(Edible Future) Před rokem

      @Magnus Magnusson not in the 50's

    • vermilionjack
      vermilionjack Před rokem

      @Logs GK here in russia we dont even know what actually the heck is "farmed wood"

  • Dro809
    Dro809 Před rokem +158

    If you watch this is reverse, you'll learn how trees are made.

  • Tom Kelly
    Tom Kelly Před rokem

    That is some amazing technology. I love that with plywood there is no sawdust waste from milling boards, the cross lamination gives it exceptional properties, not splitting and higher strength and well it is just all around interesting to see! Thanks for sharing

  • David Fletcher
    David Fletcher Před rokem

    I work in a plywood mill in Wagga Wagga, Australia in 2021. Our method of manufacture has much more in common with the 1950s process than the modern one. We even use 1950s (and older) machinery, including a 90 year old Jenkins trim saw (which I operate). Our patching machines are pre WW2 German made. Four people to a glue spreader. Raute veneer dryer. Panel sander hand fed - one board at a time. A modern 36 daylight hot press, and a vintage 10 daylight hot press (the only press in Australia that can take 50mm boards). Our veneer peeler operates without the benefit of soaking logs.
    The mill closes forever in December. Jobs to China.

  • rojoshow13
    rojoshow13 Před rokem

    I work on a rotary lathe very similar to the ones in this video. And I wasn't even seeking out this video. It just appeared on my recommended videos. It's kind of interesting to see how much is the same and how much is different. I guess the biggest difference for me is that I cut much thinner veneer from maple, oak, birch, and basswood. 1/42 of an inch thick. That's about 4 sheets of paper thick. And for the most part, it's intended to be the outside decorative layer for plywood or cabinets, etc. The clipper is basically the same except it goes straight into a dryer on a conveyor and then piled after. And we don't patch the veneer anymore. But we do clip out defects like knots and then glue the edges and splice it back together into full sheets. But that's not ideal and sells for less.

  • David Overstreet
    David Overstreet Před rokem

    Just amazing. I always wondered how it was done, after working off and on over the years with plywood.

  • Aidan Wansbrough
    Aidan Wansbrough Před 4 lety

    Really interesting! I love watching these how things are made videos!

  • Matthew Deavitt
    Matthew Deavitt Před rokem +3

    The veneer mill I work at has been there since the forties and is still doing it the same way. From cutting the logs, to the guillotine operater, to sorting the boards, to feeding the dryer, to chipping the waste and scraping the furnace. We have Zero robots and fancy controls, and I couldn't be happier with it.

  • FlyMachine ONeill
    FlyMachine ONeill Před rokem

    Fascinating absolutely amazing! I work with the stuff all the time but never really considered how it’s made

  • Lucas Johnson
    Lucas Johnson Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing! The way the wood just rolls off the log in flexible sheets is soo cool!

  • 66Cardiff
    66Cardiff Před 2 lety +5

    3:35 You have a core feeder who feeds the strips through the glue machine, a core layer who lays the glued strips, and then you have the head and tail sheet turners who lift 2 full sheets together up over the body of the core layer. I was a sheet turner for 2 summers right out of high school. Long, hot work. We wore skin tight heavy rubber gloves. The core layer got pretty pissed of if you hit him with sheets going over his head. Sometimes it couldn't be helped because the sheets would break apart in your hand from being so brittle or cracked. 30 sheets of plywood to a load (into press) at 100 to 150 loads per shift if you were fast and the wood was good.

  • Riley Brown
    Riley Brown Před rokem +428

    That place has got to smell amazing.

    • Digitalhunny
      Digitalhunny Před 9 měsíci +2

      You do know that THAT smell _is_ the smell of murdered trees screaming, right?! Look someone _had_ to be an arsehole around here, _so_ I nominated myself. Plus, I am after all _completely_ full of shyt. Until, it's proven to be 99.9% true we don't have to talk about it. Now go on & enjoy your salad 👍😁

    • Screaming Eagle
      Screaming Eagle Před 9 měsíci

      no protective equipment whatsoever. sawdust, chemicals, noise, abrasions. Did you see that one guys hands all taped up a big cut on his hand. just put some sctoch tape on it and keep working.

      PHARRAOH Před rokem +4

      unless your coworkers had lunch at taco bell

    • ItsBozzy
      ItsBozzy Před rokem +36

      i worked at an UPM plywood factory for a couple months as an apprentice, and yes. yes it does. I miss the place

  • Honest Chris
    Honest Chris Před 4 lety

    My first job on leaving school in 1963 was to work in a factory called Thames Plywood in Barking in Essex, it was fascinating, my first job was to be trained to sort out the grades of plywood, such as the poor quality was for the core (inside) then the back and the face which was the best. I had to learn all about different woods and the different types of plywood to make from them. So different from today I suppose.

  • FlumenSanctiViti
    FlumenSanctiViti Před 5 lety +1546

    1954: 150 people work hard to make some fine plywood.
    2016: 15 people oversee robots doing hard work to make some fine plywood.
    2062: 1 person oversee advanced 3D printer rearranging cellulose molecules into some fine plywood.

    • facundo tocao
      facundo tocao Před 23 dny

      1954 . 150 peoples work hard to make a luxury plywood for cheap price
      2022 . 40 peoples and bunch of oversea computers consuming more energy work less and quickly to produce a low quality plywood very expensive
      Something is wrong with peoples or is all about money

    • Screaming Eagle
      Screaming Eagle Před 9 měsíci

      2062 plywood reaches new high price of 3000 per sheet.

    • al oberdorf
      al oberdorf Před rokem +1

      @Phill Huddleston only if the cellulose cells are not oriented vertically.....but jumbled....plant like..still probably not fiction. If it exists in nature now, Big business says "We can make it artificially and more expensive and make people believe it is a better product"...like Aspirin.

    • Phill Huddleston
      Phill Huddleston Před rokem +1

      That's called particle board or MDF.

    • al oberdorf
      al oberdorf Před rokem

      @Jamie Cool.....I Sound like a human trying...to ...sound..like ...a...Robot....Hidden talent I guess........Snarky ehhhhhy.......ain't Canadian either......

  • Jon D
    Jon D Před 4 lety +1

    Oh my, this brings back so many memories, I worked in plywood mills in Medford, Oregon USA, MEDCO, (medford corporation) and KOGAP, most logs went into steam vats to soften them up, like this video they used the old Log Ponds, with the slips that fed the lathes. I did all those jobs., except run the lathe, (not may did) but was Green Chain, Dryer feeder, dryer grader (puller), lay up for the gluing the plywood, worked the Hot press, Raaiman Operator , patching the knots with plugs. Dryer Tender (controlled the dryers) even loaded the rail cars and trucks with finished plywood the mill in Medford was 5 acres under roof. WOW spent 8 years 8 months 2 weeks and 2 hours working there started in 1975.

  • S. Nathaniel Adams
    S. Nathaniel Adams Před 2 lety +27

    If anyone was curious like I was, the veneer patching machine was patented in 1953 by the E. V. Prentice company from Portland, Oregon

    • D L88
      D L88 Před rokem

      @Ivar Anderson I moved away from Portland

    • Ivar Anderson
      Ivar Anderson Před rokem

      @D L88 I'll bite, just to say: you tend to see what you're looking for. If you don't live in Portland, you have little basis for comment. If you do live in Portland, I wonder how your experience differs so much from that of the Portlanders I know. Are you involved in your community? Know your neighbors? Care about either?

    • D L88
      D L88 Před rokem

      Now portland is a feces laden, liberal shithole

  • Legendsspeed
    Legendsspeed Před rokem +19

    That is some highly advanced machinery they are using in Finland , I have a feeling the plywood from homedepot is made using a 1948 Buick attached to reciprocating saw.

  • murraystewartj
    murraystewartj Před 4 lety

    Greetings from British Columbia, Canada. The first part of this video reminded me of the films we were shown in elementary school, extolling the virtues of our major industry. That was the 1960s, and how much has changed. Back then, those huge old-growth trees were still seen as limitless, the forests clear cut as fast as possible. Forestry jobs, whether falling trees or working in the mills, paid well but had a staggering death and injury rate, which was accepted as normal back then. Fast forward, and how much has changed. The "cores" that were discarded in the first segment are about as big around as the second or third growth trees being harvested now. The plants are all computerized to maximize yield from smaller stick trees (and yes, when you are old enough to remember the size of the logs on the logging trucks once going to the mills, they are sticks today) with a fraction of the previous workforce. Once ravaged forests struggle to recover, but even extensive replanting can't replace in a couple of decades what took centuries to grow. Now, warmer winters have led to wide swaths of forests dying to beetle infestation - so much that the dead wood can't be harvested before it's unusable. Then the mega-fires come in and scorch the earth so that everything, including the micro-environment in the soil, is dead.
    I hope they're doing better work in Finland with replacing trees faster than they consume them, otherwise it's just another damned gold rush, and when it's over.... Fancy computerized plants won't make a damned bit of difference if the resource is managed with long-term goals in mind.

  • Harold Alexis
    Harold Alexis Před rokem

    This a great video educational. I'm a die hard fan of plywood and many other lumber products. This is not only my first watching of this channel but how plywood & veneer is made. At this writing i'm looking for veneers for my older loudspeaker sets.They're drying & over waxed they need replacement. I learned so much watching this nostalgia & current technologies cut & create lumbers! Awesome video! 🎥👋👋👋👋👋👋👋

  • JdK 52
    JdK 52 Před 3 lety

    I wonder how the price of plywood has changed. Has the massive improvement in efficiency actually seen a reduction in cost to the consumer or has it only brought higher profits to the manufacturer? There were a lot of people involved in that first process compared to the second.

  • NathanRocks
    NathanRocks Před rokem

    Wow and no gloves while handling those raw sheets! The comparison between then and now is an awesome look at how manufacturing has evolved. That truly is a high tech factory of the future!

  • NACA Farm
    NACA Farm Před 2 lety

    Staring at the bare plywood on our ceiling wondering how old the tree it came from. Probably just some decade year old tree. So amazed by the way plywood were made in the past. Just one tree to make all those plywood. The quality must be amazing. Water resistance must be better than plywoods today that would go soft after few rains

  • Alpha namens
    Alpha namens Před 4 lety +4

    You mill workers are beasts, thanks for all you do.

  • NorthWestCustoms666
    NorthWestCustoms666 Před 4 lety +2

    Worked in a plywood mill for
    8.5 years. We made Multiply underlay with the green X's on it and we also made wood hockey stick shafts.

  • Nick Cormier
    Nick Cormier Před 2 lety +11

    Very interesting.
    Both processes are interesting
    But I have to admit, watching machines do most of the work is not as poetic as watching the men do their thing.

  • Lapdog
    Lapdog Před 3 lety +2

    I was a sawyer and grader in a plywood mill in the early 70s. This is a fascinating film, especially how different it is from then.

  • JarJarBaggett
    JarJarBaggett Před 2 lety +466

    I now know the reason my grandpa’s shed made of plywood from the 50’s is still standing and mine made 3 days ago is falling in.
    He remembered to use nails

    • Herbert Schroeder
      Herbert Schroeder Před rokem

      Yeah. Nails help, alot. 😄

    • Jamie
      Jamie Před rokem

      @mike jones Go away

    • mike jones
      mike jones Před rokem +1

      That and back then they used REAL plywood everywhere...now its a novelty and instead your shed and prob your house is made outta particle board thats just mostly glue...expect your house to fall down and the neighborhoods built in the 70s to still be standing

    • Silver Rain
      Silver Rain Před rokem +2

      Plywood is much stronger than ordinary wood because of the criss-crossing of the wood grain in plywood, but it is more susceptible to water damage than ordinary wood. You have to give a generous amount of paint, especially at the ends.

    • FireboltAz
      FireboltAz Před rokem +5

      He was definitely nailing your grandma in that shed

  • Paul Moffat
    Paul Moffat Před rokem +10

    Somewhere along the way, they lost a 1/16" in thickness on a 3/4" sheet. It's called the same, but it isn't. And a 2x4 ISN'T, it is a 1+1/2 by 3+1/2 inches! And still, with all those employee reductions, and thinning of the product, it is still more expensive!

    • Charles Panache
      Charles Panache Před rokem

      @Prod. SlapHappy no. Its simply to sell less of a product at a higher price.

    • Prod. SlapHappy
      Prod. SlapHappy Před rokem +1

      Because back then the wood was rough and uneven. Now its all planed down to make it nice and smooth for the soft gentle hands of the new age

    • Vicarious Witness
      Vicarious Witness Před rokem +1

      I tell everyone this and they look at me like “ that’s just the way it is… “ just to mess with them I ask for a 1”1/2 x 3”1/2 , let’s just call it what it is… but get ready for dumb looks.

  • joe woodchuck
    joe woodchuck Před 3 lety

    I never knew that interior layers could be made of multiple pieces. That could make some projects harder to work out.

  • CantStopTommy
    CantStopTommy Před rokem +2

    The process in the new mill seemed to skip some steps, didn’t even see then glue up or press the sheets. They were suddenly just done! Must be a magic factory.

  • Toasty
    Toasty Před rokem

    the sawmill i worked at a few years ago was rather antiquated, and so it stretched over a river (it was powered by water back in the day) and the chain running the logs from the lumber storage to the saw ran across the river, it happened that logs fell of that chain and we had to fish them out of the river. Let me tell you right now, that's some of the hardest work i have done in my life, pushing a 2 tonn log in running water with a sturdy stick is a serious recipe for back pain. I can't imagine the guys who rafted lumber back in the day!

  • DXR
    DXR Před rokem

    Wow, the plywood manufacturing process went from employing lots of workers in a 10 stage process to a fully automated robotic process employing very little labor and reaching a higher rate of productivity. The dynamics between robotics and productivity is the true picture of economic events we cannot see through the market. So, why is the price of plywood going up if there is so much of it and hardly any value contained in it? Should be as cheap as bricks.

  • Jason Piehler
    Jason Piehler Před rokem

    The centers of southern yellow pine logs were pressure treated and used as residential fence posts for decades around the world. They were 6-8 inches in diameter and 8 foot 6” inches long. The other centers were milled into dimensional lumber, nothing was wasted. Now everything is milled into plywood.

  • Naturenerd1000
    Naturenerd1000 Před 3 lety

    These roller saws to cut such huge timers in layers are incredible!
    6:00 covered in saw dust.

  • I_THE_ME
    I_THE_ME Před rokem

    Back in the 70s the same Koskisen sawmill was producing lots of waste wood core. My grandfather found out how cheap those cores were and started building saunas for himself from those cores. Sadly it didn't take long for the mill to catch on to what he was doing and they promptly raised the prices. Now 50 years later his saunas are still like brand new.

    FOAD RIGHTNOW Před rokem +1

    Wood is a hugely underappreciated miracle material! We all take it for granted!

  • Ranechabria
    Ranechabria Před 4 lety +13

    Took me 25 minutes to watch this 7 minute video, with frequent back-seeks and pauses. Very instructional!

  • Spectrum
    Spectrum Před 4 lety +7

    My great grandfather in North Western Ontario worked on the saw mills doing this very same thing!

  • Muskoka Mike
    Muskoka Mike Před 2 lety

    Just want to point out too that they are making 2 different types of plywood as well. The finnish ply, is a much higher grade than the fir ply from 1954. More, thinner layers as well as a "no void" policy.
    They also eliminated the sanding process. The finnish ply is sanded 2 sides.

  • Vemost
    Vemost Před 3 lety +1

    Humans are incredible . To come up with this idea, then build the machines to accomplish it....is..well, incredible !

  • Zach
    Zach Před rokem +254

    The way lumber prices are, you’d think people do everything with their teeth.

    • Take America Back From Isяael
      Take America Back From Isяael Před rokem

      @Carson Shipley Pissrael+Rububs, its worse that you think but at least you are part way there but it dosent matter, the majority don't gaff and with the heavy duty censorship and history being erased the writing is on the wall and the sheeps just proved how gulliable and easily manipulated they are now 20 years later, wear this, stand here, get this injected, etc, we are fked.

    • Carson Shipley
      Carson Shipley Před rokem

      @Take America Back From Isяael us didn't do 911 but the gov knew they were gonna do it bc they warned them and didn't do nun Abt it

    • MarLo
      MarLo Před rokem

      @Yukari I have, no worries. Its just funny

    • Stigma
      Stigma Před rokem

      @Take America Back From Isяael i dont live in america

    • Take America Back From Isяael
      Take America Back From Isяael Před rokem

      @Stigma Am I not getting enough govt injections? I am about 35 years behind... sorry....I will dumb it down for ewe 🐑 all. Until then chug a beer and chant USA USA! and think about how your vote mattered in Nov LOL

  • Grammar Not I Has
    Grammar Not I Has Před 2 lety

    wow, that is so neat, i never could have thought of this process...
    but in concept if you were in a low-tech village you could still probably make decent plywood by hand if you knew how to put together the machinery!

  • NeaonBHB
    NeaonBHB Před 3 lety

    I hope the people of Finland appreciate the engineering and workmanship that went into building this machinery they use. That engineering from the Congo is a sight to behold

  • Steve
    Steve Před 3 lety

    Very cool to see how plywood is made. Always wondered how we get 4x8 sheets when trees aren't that big. Also interesting why they soak the logs

  • Odaine Roberts
    Odaine Roberts Před 4 lety

    My father still has ply wood from the 80s. Heavy in weight which is a little disadvantage but they do not bend after getting wet and then expose to sunlight. Unlike today's ply wood that fade like toilet paper.

  • John Jones
    John Jones Před 3 lety

    I was just wondering yesterday how plywood is made. Thank you for posting!

  • Jeremy Thurman
    Jeremy Thurman Před 5 lety +279

    Softening the logs before sawing! I never knew exactly why they often depict logs in a river by a saw mill, I always assumed it was just a simple and efficient way to transport them.

    • Maximus Longrod
      Maximus Longrod Před rokem +4

      I work at a plywood plant. We cook our logs in long vats where hot water is pumped in from our steam plant. The cook time differs between fir or spruce logs and the ambient temp outside. These logs are put in after being debarked. Then they’re loaded into our rotary lathe. If you didn’t steam them they wouldn’t peel for a shit and your knives would dull quickly.

    • Rob Mongeau
      Rob Mongeau Před 3 lety

      Putting the log in water keeps its temperature down to eliminate spaulting. The log basically cooks itself, and bacteria grows.
      That's why you see sprinkler systems hosing down the logs at Mills where the logs are stacked on drydock.

    • Charles Yuditsky
      Charles Yuditsky Před 3 lety +1

      Dennis Warren wow that's a stunner

    • Not a Phony
      Not a Phony Před 3 lety +1

      You use water to instantly cure plants of nutrients and starches and because it's easier to float a log down the river than carry it , you can do the same with vegetables and cannabis , water = almost instant purification , There intentions aren't to soften them up takes more than a couple of days in river transit to accomplish that, mosty to clean the wood and transport it

    • Martyn James
      Martyn James Před 4 lety

      Me too, that and I thought maybe they stored the logs on the water to avoid having to make on land storage space.

  • Jenny Tan
    Jenny Tan Před 3 lety

    I had experimented to strengthen plywood with a layer of chicken and nylon fibre. It add strength and it wont crack easily. This reinforcement acted like rebar in concrete pillars.

  • DoubleDownDeuce
    DoubleDownDeuce Před rokem

    Working in a cabinet shop in B.C. and it's sad to see we've lost the ability to manufacture materials locally. Almost everything I would cut on a daily basis was shipped from China and Vietnam. We have such huge stockpile of natural resources like lumber but its cheaper to outsource for an inferior product.

  • Stew Vlogs
    Stew Vlogs Před rokem

    The health and safety differences of then and now. No ear protection, no uniform, no gloves, no goggles, no safety harness etc. Amazing how we work much safer now. Great video, very interesting process 👍

  • Demonio
    Demonio Před rokem +7

    It’s sad you can no longer find trees that size anymore, they are few and far between

    • Trygve Evensen
      Trygve Evensen Před rokem +2

      I know right, it's depressing. All you see now is just the reminiscence of what was once large, diverse ecosystems, now swapped out for plantations similar to monocultures. All this in the span of a few hundred years

  • frank howarth
    frank howarth Před 5 lety +1311

    Making cylinders into planes

    • Nicholas
      Nicholas Před rokem

      Wood aeroplanes

    • Jerome Pinder
      Jerome Pinder Před rokem

      @D-railed uy.

    • J Mad
      J Mad Před 2 lety

      @zimtower a gallon of LSD will do that to ya

    • prithvi thakur
      prithvi thakur Před 2 lety +1

      Wait, it's all maths?
      Always has been

    • Morberis
      Morberis Před 2 lety +1

      @george george Really? It has nothing to do with the fact that large trees have become much more valuable? A little critical thinking goes a long way.

  • Sir Richard N. Bahls IV
    Sir Richard N. Bahls IV Před 2 lety +1

    Great video straight to the point no bs 👌

  • zozabosh steama
    zozabosh steama Před rokem

    I was a core layer and a plywood factory in Oregon called KOGAP. We had a much better system. This video brought back memories of hard work.

  • macroevolve
    macroevolve Před 2 lety

    The 1950's footage was pretty "modern". Many machine shops still use equipment from the 50's and 60's, some still have WW2 era stuff because they are still accurate enough.

  • Crystal Littlejohn
    Crystal Littlejohn Před rokem

    I am absolutely astounded but the sheer size of the logs from the 50's compared to now.

  • crxdelsolsir
    crxdelsolsir Před rokem

    The old processes in my opinion had alot more advantage.
    Due to more labor it employed more people
    The slower process made depletion of resources slower if not more sustainable
    The slower process and higher labor did increase price but also appreciation
    Higher appreciation meant people looked after their creation or purchase, looked after them, passed them on, reducing throw away mentality, reduced land fill and protect the environment.
    Today with advent of more efficient process, it has reduced employment, reduced the appreciation of products, increased throw away mentality, contributes to the early depletion of the resources, higher environmental impact and less material for the future generations.

  • Fumingen FUUUM
    Fumingen FUUUM Před rokem

    I wonder how much quicker the process is now days, from start to finish. I'd imagine it's a huge difference

  • DrPastah
    DrPastah Před 4 lety

    Was wondering how they made such large pieces of wood. So, they were really sheets of a tree all along.

  • Orhan İyidoğan🇹🇷
    Orhan İyidoğan🇹🇷 Před rokem +3

    Nothing changed since then, except the diameter of the logs. 😔

  • JustaTribute
    JustaTribute Před rokem +1

    My favorite part is how everyone back then had a job and purpose, and how machines replaced them all to save a few dollars.

  • Name
    Name Před rokem

    Such beautiful big trees! Truly one doesn't know what they have until it's gone!

  • Legless Wonder
    Legless Wonder Před rokem +81

    5:46 imagine having to wear a shirt that says “committed to wood” lol

    • Acetyl
      Acetyl Před rokem

      The modern world is creepy and disgustingly tacky.

    • yeah yeah yeah
      yeah yeah yeah Před rokem +3

      Would u rather wear one that says "commited to morning wood"? 😬😬😬😬 lol

    • Pesach
      Pesach Před rokem +1

      Bro you made my morning thanks 😂

  • Finn Phinney
    Finn Phinney Před rokem +1

    My dad was a logger. Says the trees they harvest today are just pipe stems. ( being so small around ) love seeing pine trees fall!!! Need to let the hardwoods grow and kill all the pines.
    I worked in a factory that made plywood for overhead doors. Our operation was on a lot smaller scale. The wood would have to be treated. Air tanks and suits were used in the treatment room. If you walked in without air, you'd be carried out. Most people just suffered one hell of a buzz from the fumes. Others get sick and have to go hospital. The glue machines only could handle one piece of plywood at a time.
    Last time I was past there, the factory has been torn down and hauled away. Like alot of small towns, the work went over seas where they pay less and get more!! Both in wages and in stuff they need to survive. Unlike here in America where people live on want instead of need

  • that one that talks A lot!

    Gotta love how they did it with the camera shots in today's version vs old days! Back then cameramen just stood there going WHOOOOAAA everytime in one spot while today's cameramen would be whipping their drones in the air full swing at the angles and good hd close-ups!

  • Stan Patterson
    Stan Patterson Před 4 lety +1

    It's ironic that back then it took an army of people to make plywood, and it was dirt cheap. Now, it's 97% machine-handled, machine-made, and costs a fortune to buy.

  • Tyler Durden
    Tyler Durden Před rokem +12

    they also apparently add a layer of gold nowadays, at least the price reflects that.

    • Totavo
      Totavo Před rokem

      If you put gold in the glue it makes the glue work better.

  • Stu Pidas
    Stu Pidas Před 3 lety +5

    How many workers does it take to make a sheet of plywood? Depends on how thin you slice them.

    • Roger Jamespaul
      Roger Jamespaul Před rokem

      If you sliced the workers how would you be able to make Plywood.

  • Ele Truk
    Ele Truk Před 3 lety

    40 years ago I worked on the cutting edge of computers used in making plywood. We used Data General minicomputers, programmed by paper tape (mylar actually, it lasted longer).

  • 2ndAmendmentGlock
    2ndAmendmentGlock Před rokem

    And yet it is somewhat amazing that plywood prices have somehow risen over the years.

  • Momo Kawashima
    Momo Kawashima Před rokem +35

    "Okay so basically we skin a log and press it together"

    • Hùng Phạm
      Hùng Phạm Před rokem +1

      Yes wondering the same thing why they do it

    • rbnhd1976
      rbnhd1976 Před rokem +2

      Right, with the grain direction alternated in layers, makes it very strong

  • Song Whisperer
    Song Whisperer Před rokem

    This video reminds me of a lumber-mill I worked at some time ago, we didn’t make plywood but it still brings back bad memories.

  • Phil up
    Phil up Před rokem

    I love the diversity in the work force of the "then" crew . The good ole days

  • terry shutt
    terry shutt Před rokem

    Two VERY different products. First one,1950's Canada, real Doug fir "plywood" full size thickness A/C code or no knot holes on one side,knot holes on the backside. Second new process Birch, very nice for Finish work.One very old,one very new.

  • walter kersting
    walter kersting Před 4 lety +26

    I’ll bet that whole operation smells amazing.
    I’ll bet a lot of that equipment is still working.
    I’ll bet a lot of that plywood from the fifties is still in service.
    I’ll bet the trees grew back by now.

    • Kaushal Kumar
      Kaushal Kumar Před rokem

      thanks so much walter. have a great day walter.

    • KBtube
      KBtube Před 2 lety +1

      @Deco Dolly those are atheist trees.

    • Dotta
      Dotta Před 2 lety

      Deco Dolly exactly !

    • Deco Dolly
      Deco Dolly Před 2 lety +3

      @Dotta "Secular trees"? As opposed to religious trees......?

    • Dotta
      Dotta Před 3 lety +7

      You must be drunk
      Those are secular trees and not even your grandchildren’s grandchildren will see them back at that size

  • Varr James
    Varr James Před rokem

    All these years of using plywood and never thought of how they got those sheets of veneer. Now I know.

  • 08_Avinash Meena
    08_Avinash Meena Před 4 lety

    So informative...I got tears in my eyes.

  • J Mo
    J Mo Před 3 lety

    Wont the glue between the veneers damage it over time and invite pests?

  • Myriam Ickx
    Myriam Ickx Před rokem

    I find it gut-wrenching to see these ancient giant trees felled and peeled away, leaving a lot of waste, to make cheap stuff like plywood.

  • Ron Shipp
    Ron Shipp Před 4 lety +1

    I worked in plywood mills much like this one around 1968 through 1970, "pulling on the green chain" (about 2:35 into the video). Breaks my heart now to remember how much old growth Douglas Fir we turned into plywood.

  • Darren Dackly
    Darren Dackly Před 5 lety +3

    Good stuff. It's interesting to see how occupational safety has changed over the years.

  • Toli G
    Toli G Před rokem

    It's probably not for the reason I'm thinking, but trees sure have gotten a lot smaller. I hope it's just because the process is so much more efficient you dont need massive old trees, but I have a sad feeling it's because big old trees aren't common enough anymore that we can just casually chop them down.

  • Bone holster
    Bone holster Před rokem

    Old timey engineering on full display.
    Nothing new under the sun.
    Great video.

  • Michael McKenzie
    Michael McKenzie Před 3 lety

    There is a HUGE difference between 1954 and 2016: about 95% of the people and their jobs you see in the video about 1954 are gone in the 2016 factory. Their jobs were mechanized, so they, their spouses, their kids, and all the people who served them are gone too.

  • Mike CorLeoné
    Mike CorLeoné Před 4 lety

    Well at least now i know why my 1950’s plywood roof on my house is stronger and lasting longer than my neighbors roof which was re ply wooded in 2006 and already needs to be redone.. we just redid my roof and all i needed was tar n shingles.. plywood still good 60 years later...